Robots Used To Purchase

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hommer, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    There is at the moment, a proposal before Congress, to ban robots that are used to purchase tickets for events, sometimes selling out an event before the first 3 people standing in line when the box office opens, can get one. These same robots are sometimes used to purchase releases from the mint. Ever wonder how something sells out before you can finish your order and the next day there are thousands for sale on TV when there was a limit of one?
     
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  3. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Never thought of that. It would explain a lot....
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Where's my ray gun? ........I'll fry that dang bot!
     
  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    So, how are they going to reliably identify bots? It's not like they self-identify unless they do so voluntarily. And there's enough money in successful anti-CAPTCHA AI that some pretty sophisticated coders are devoting their careers to writing it. You can implement a strong-enough CAPTCHA to defeat most of them, but it'll also either defeat a certain percentage of your legitimate users, or slow/complicate their experience enough that they'll ragequit and flay you publicly in every venue they can find.

    It ain't gonna magically disappear if you legislate against it.
     
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  6. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    From what I've gathered, the proposal as it reads now, doesn't provide what the actual penalties would be if caught, only that you will be sued by the U.S. Government and possibly your state or the state in which the violation occurs.
     
  7. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    The music industry is pushing hard for it. I read where in recent months where scalpers were making more money off of concerts than the performers, managers, and promoters combined.
     
  8. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    It's amazing how people want smaller government and to let the market control things. Until they don't like the result and then they want a law...
     
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  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Good luck with that was my initial response. If venues want people in line to get tickets just set aside a certain number for in person purchases. This is probably just a show of good faith for some supporters and then the bill will quietly disappear.
     
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  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Best use of a trial run for cyber-warfare I ever heard of. Kill all the bots.
     
  11. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Two words... John Connor :)
     
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  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Given a choice, I'll take a bigger government and less market control over having more flipping, but I deny the premise that flipping is even a "free market".
     
  13. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Of course the resale outlets have found ways to get around the "captcha" security. If the US government legislates banning robots - they will just take the sites offshore where the US government has little or no legal means to shut them down.

    And regarding cyber security - when or if the next war comes it will not start with a bang, it will begin with all electric grids, everything being shutdown by governments. Thus it will begin with quiet.
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    #1 A robot may not injury a human being, or though in actions ,allow a human to be harmed. However a bot may snipe a key coin at any time. The bot may send out Phantom signals while Treasure hunt is medal detecting on a long island beach.


    #2 must obey all orders given to it by a human ,except if it conflicts with the first law . However if Heavycam.monstervam orders the bot to rip the head off a flea market vendor the bot must obey,especially if he's found a 1887 donkey tail vam.


    #3 A bot must protect its own existence , especially when it's has chugged down green18 last bottle of bourbon !
    & as long as it doesn't conflict with the first two laws.
    :)



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