Guess the Variety & URS ?

6 to 7 known 1829/3
I think this maybe One More.
Only grading will tell Us that. I would have it graded. Not One of us are grader for a Tpg!
Great find !

 

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Question on this one an 1830 referred to in Breen as #2985 1830 C over Horizontal C in America. Am I safe to assume that this is not a variety as listed by Breen, and a Obv. 4 Rev. J?

 

Your C over horizontal C is actually LM-14 and uses obverse die 6 and reverse Q. It is an R-3 die marriage with no particular premium.

The reverse die was also paired with the 1832 obverse 3 to form the LM-3 die marriage for that year. It's also a R-3 DM.

 

You guys are good.

 

So I stopped by the LCS today to have a look at the latest edition of the CPG. They seem to have done a complete 180 on this variety , now saying it's an RPD! They go on to say that in the next edition that it will be excluded in order to make room for other varieties ! Like WTH?
Don't misunderstand me I'm very happy with the coin and very close to competing the series by dates. And still plan going after the varieties ,and die marriages the series.
What I am not happy about is the fact that when you rely on reference materials to be correct. That's the reason you use references to make sure your facts are correct .
so yes someone really screwed the pooch on the facts in that edition of the cpg. Lesson learned for all of us double check your data before you pull the trigger!

 

If you are going to collect the varieties in a series, get the book that specializes on the varieties of that series. General books on varieties will not be complete (even standard variety references aren't always complete. That 1835 LM-12 mentioned earlier was discovered after the standard reference was published.) and are more likely to contain errors.

Easy way to spot the 35 LM-12.

There are three different types of large 5C. Two of the types have short flags on the 5 (flag is the top of the 5.) The last type has a long flag. The long flag is found only on die DD (found on LM- 7, 8, and 9 all common) and on the reverse of LM-12. On rev DD the B in PLURIBUS is slightly left of being centered below T3. On LM-12 T3 is centered between B and U. So 35 with large 5 long flag, T3 centered between B&U = LM-12

 

Ok what grading service do grade for?
I am not be a smart a__ but till 1829 is graded you could be wrong.

 

Jello as stated above in my post the newest edition of the Cherry pickers guide states that it's no longer considered an over date but an rpd . They don't say we screwed up and published incorrect information . However again they go on to say they will no longer list this coin as anything in the next edition of the cpg

 

Grading has nothing to do with the fact that the 1829 is NOT LM-18. I pointed out why it couldn't be in my first post. If a TPG calls it LM-18 then they would be the one that was wrong not me. h and by the way Paddy agrees with me on the attribution now that he has had a chance to examine it in hand.

The last post that you quoted was simply a caution to use the most appropriate/ complete/accurate reference, along with a simple way of identifying a potentally very rare variety. That last part could help someone cherry pick a very valuable coin, but I guess you would rather I not past on information?

 

I love your ability to stay objective and not get caught up in the HOPE like I do. I tend to "see" what I hope to see instead of what's there, or more frequently, what's NOT there.

 

Lot easier to avoid getting caught up in the HOPE when you are looking at someone elses coins. I will admit is a lot harder to do when I'm looking at MY coins or what may be a cherrypick purchase.

 

I'm exactly the opposite - clinically judgmental about the stuff I have in my hand or am considering, and endlessly optimistic about everything you guys post. Gets me in trouble sometimes.

 

This is me in a nutshell.

 

Regardless of that, with your recent track record I'm about ready to bet whatever horse you tell me to.