Jefferson nickle error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Markus1959, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Die crack would be raised on the coin!
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    The description you posted said it would leave a crescent-shaped impression. It doesn't look like that is the case to me. It looks concentric.

    Chris
     
  4. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    The picture sure looks like there is a raised feature along the rim. If all that is incuse than I can't see it well enough to give another opinion.
     
  5. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    No Sir - never said anything about "crescent shaped" anything!!
     
  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Nothing like living in Michigan and have access to Ken Potter and the Coneca Boys at local coin shows . Here's the one I have and it looks a lot like the one in this thread . Before I give the answer up, no one is right here on this kind of error ..
    A022 - 20140224_164049 (2)-horz.jpg A022 - 20140224_164049 (3)-horz.jpg
    So keep guessing and I'll give the answer tomorrow ...
     
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  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    HUH? Worn die rims? Or MAD?
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Correct .....
     
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I was quoting @paddyman98 , not you! Go back and read the description for an Incomplete Punch in his link.

    Chris
     
  10. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Talk to you later!! You seem like such a nice guy - I wish you were my neighbor!!
     
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  11. cpm9ball

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    I didn't say that paddy said it - Post #15. READ HIS DAMN LINK!

    Chris
     
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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    This is why I had asked to see a picture of the Reverse Side. Because I knew beforehand that a Incomplete Punch would have the crescent shape on both sides of the coin. After he posted the Reverse side I saw nothing so I gave up on my thought. ;) Got it?
     
  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Clash and a mis- aligned die?
     
  14. cpm9ball

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    Oh, I understand completely. I just don't know why @Markus1959 got so bent out of shape. You'd think I just stole some of his sauerkraut.

    Chris
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Remember g
    No. Anything that happens to the DIE will be raised* on the coin. The two raised concentric lines w/furrows near the rim are raised.
    *Please don't contradict this citing things like "rust" that have no bearing on the OP's coin.

    Yes, any damage to the planchet would be struck out or almost obliterated when the coin was made.

    Possible BUT not likely as they don't look like die breaks. Anyway, that would make this (and others from that die) the most unusual dual concentric die cracked coin in history - possibly even unique!

    :sorry: Your coin is NOTHING like the OP's and does not belong posted in this thread as now we'll be writing about two different coins. While interesting coins like yours may not be common as the dies should have been retired (I have four similar nickels including the 84-D somewhere in a junk box), IMHO they are not as "unique" and special as the OP's coin which would have been on its way to Fred Weinberg and PCGS as soon as I found it!
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I took it over to collectors universe forums, let see what they say ...
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2016
  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Oh no :facepalm::(. Please post your coin on its own thread HERE so we can learn from it. I agree with worn dies although I do have one that I altered to show the difference between a genuine.
     
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I did post it on it own thread, it was over 2 years ago .
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1984-d-jefferson-nickel-collar-error.243271/

    Were waiting on fred to show on collectors universe forums .
     
  19. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Multiple cracks in die before tooling could cause this result on obverse with no damage to reverse. Probably a few were struck before die was rejected.
     
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  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    ???? "cracks in a die before tooling." ??? Whatever this means it would not make it on to a coining press. So something happened while coins were being struck.

    Anything is possible at the Mint. However, die breaks do not look as uniform as this and very rarely occur this deep or CONCENTRICALLY DUAL.
     
  21. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    @Rick Stachowski

    Your nickel was struck with worn and collapsed dies. It seems the first post in the link above answered the question and no one else felt the need to comment. While not especially rare, it is a very interesting coin, and a great "coin hunter's find." I'm glad you kept it. :D
     
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