2009S Cent value

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by davidh, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    This may have been discussed before but I couldn't find it in Search.

    Why are the 2009S Bronze Cent Proof sets so unloved? They must be since they are being offered, unsold, on ebay for as little as $10 a set. This is unfathomable especially in light of their relative rarity. Or don't collectors see the coin's composition as worthy of consideration?
     
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    relative rarity???

    There are millions of them... the coin is not rare.

    Thus a likely reason for the lack of interest.
     
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  4. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    A dealer friend said the 4 coin 95% copper proof set sells for ten to fifteen dollars at shows.
    So why buy the bronze?
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Yeah, but there could be 'conditional rarities'........what do these 'pop' on the big three? devil.gif
     
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  6. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    How many folks would actually get the bronze cents graded?
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Cripes. The whole board is filled with such folks who want to make a buck. I guess there's no bucks to be made with these?
     
  8. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Of all the Lincoln Cents ever minted, the 2009S four-design Cent had just under 3 Million each minted. The only Cents with a smaller mintage are:

    1917 (P) 1 Matte Proof
    1975 (P) 66 Aluminium. None released to the public.
    1915 (P) 1,050 Matte Proof
    1916 (P) 1,050 Matte Proof
    1909 VDB (P) 1,194 Matte Proof
    1914 (P) 1,365 Matte Proof
    1912 (P) 2,145 Matte Proof
    1909 (P) 2,352 Matte Proof
    1911 (P) 2,411 Matte Proof
    1913 (P) 2,848 Matte Proof
    1990 S 3,055 Proof only, missing the S mint mark.
    1910 (P) 4,083 Matte Proof
    1936 (P) 5,569 Proof, Satin finish (Type 1)
    1937 (P) 9,320 Proof
    1939 (P) 13,520 Proof
    1938 (P) 14,734 Proof
    1940 (P) 15,872 Proof
    1941 (P) 21,100 Proof
    1942 (P) 32,600 Proof
    1950 (P) 51,383 Proof
    1951 (P) 57,500 Proof
    1952 (P) 81,980 Proof
    1953 (P) 128,800 Proof
    1954 (P) 233,300 Proof
    1955 (P) 378,200 Proof
    1909 VDB S 484,000
    1956 (P) 669,384 Proof
    1931 S 866,000
    1958 (P) 875,652 Proof
    1959 (P) 1,149,291 Proof; Bronze with Tin
    1914 D 1,193,000 Beware of altered date or mintmark
    1957 (P) 1,247,952 Proof
    1974 (P) 1,570,000 Aluminium. None released to the public.
    1960 (P) 1,691,602 Proof, Large Date; Bronze with Tin
    1909 S 1,825,000
    2008 S 1,998,108 Proof only
    1998 S 2,086,507 Proof only
    2007 S 2,259,847 Proof only
    1924 D 2,520,000
    1996 S 2,525,265 Proof only
    1974 S 2,612,568 Proof
    1970 S 2,632,810 Proof, Small Date (High 7)
    1973 S 2,760,339 Proof
    1997 S 2,796,678 Proof only
    1995 S 2,797,481 Proof only
    1975 S 2,845,450 Proof only
    1991 S 2,867,787 Proof only
    2006 S 2,923,105 Proof only
    1969 S 2,934,631 Proof
    2004 S 2,965,422 Proof only

    They are the 50th rarest of the 400 or so of all Lincoln Cents of all years and mints, regular issue and proof that have ever been minted.
     
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  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    But they don't circulate so they're available in high quality. Much like the 50 D Jefferson nickel.
     
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  10. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Do you consider a bronze coin to be the same as a clad one? How about a copper Cent and a Steel (1943) cent? Or a Copper-Nickel Indian Cent vs a Bronze one? My point is that the coin is different from others and is the only bronze cent minted in 50 years.
     
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  11. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    According to that dealer there is one customer of his that is buying up every 2009 cent he can get. Maybe he's on to something?
     
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  12. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    I sold my toned 2009 proof copper set for $20 I guess that's a lot of money huh? I bought it separate from the set. I like those sets I plan to buy a few.
     
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  13. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    For some reason the toned copper is demanding a higher price if attractive.
    My two copper sets have changed to a brown color but I don't like it, not attractive.
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter


    I stick by my original statement. They're not rare. Not by any definition of the word.

    There's where your answer lies.
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm corn-fused. Aren't ALL 2009 proof cents of the same bronze alloy? I know it's different from the other nearby years, but all 2009's are the same, right?
     
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  16. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    No. They made a 95% copper proof set too.
     
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  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    They ALL are, even the ones in the "regular" sets. Bronze IS 95% copper. All 2009 proof Lincoln cents are of exactly one, and only one, alloy.
     
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  18. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Seems to me, any cent collector, or U. S. type set collector would want a proof set of these. As they are a one year only. I bought a proof set to add to my U.S. type set. Special 2009 cents struck for sale in sets to collectors had the metallic copper content of cents minted in 1909 (95% copper, 5% tin and zinc). Those struck for circulation retained the normal composition of a zinc core coated with copper.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Exactly, and even the 2009 P and D cents in the so-called Mint Set were ALSO in bronze, which is 95% copper. Only the actual circulating versions were Zincolns.
     
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  20. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    If you collect all mints in both business and proof strikes, your Cent choice for 2009 Proof S-mint are from the total of 1,681,608 Bronze Proof Cents made - 1,482,501 Mint Proof Sets and 201,107 Lincoln Proof Sets. All other cents were clad. The only rarer pre 1940 Cents were 09SVDB, 14D and 31S. And fewer than any other year's proof cent after 1959. I'd call them rare.
     
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  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    If memory serves, these cents were only included in the proof and silver proof sets, and not the regular mint sets, right?
     
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