What is THE WORST coin grader?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Christopher290, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I'm a pretty bad grader myself...
     
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  3. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    I could out "bad grade" you I bet. :singing:
     
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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    We all care about resale value. I know what you are saying. I'm not a fan of SEGS.
    I just factor in the cost of a new holder in the deal. A good deal would have to cover that cost. The great deals are even more fun.
     
  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I should make a grading service called MS70, where everything gets an MS70. :android:
     
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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Didn't someone already do that? :D
     
  7. Davidschwager

    Davidschwager Member

    More than a hundred grading services have existed. I constantly find new oddball slabs. As some of the other posters said, it is hard to pick one grader as the worst. One candidate among commonly seen slabs, however, could be Star Grading Service, which seems to give every coin a 70.
    See this link for a long list of off-brand graders.
     
  8. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    There are a couple that the TV coin salesmen use. :D
     
  9. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    Worst coin grader is my wife. I tell her something is Good and she thinks it's an unc or a slider. Other than that, here's top 6 in order of preference: NGC, PCGS, ANACS, ICG, ICCS (Canadian company), and last but not least myself. I also like the holders and company that had green labels which imparted nice toning on coins occasionally (forgot name, sorry). I don't know much about SEGS but a nearly indestructible slab sounds cool
     
  10. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I purchase the coin rather than the holder, and have removed the coins to get comparable grading from the top 2 TPG on scarce coins.

    I can/have show/shown numerous coins in the 2 top tier slabs that will not cross at comparable grading to the other top tier TPG.

    In my estimation the greatest amount of self-serving publicity/advertising, by the respective firms and dealers, seems to effect highest public acceptance.

    JMHO
     
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  11. Jason Hoffpauir

    Jason Hoffpauir Avid Coin Collector

    PCI was the worst I have ever encountered. Simply over-grossed grading. It was awful. A MS-61 coin graded at PCI MS67 or higher. ROFL.
     
  12. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    It would be appreciated if you are going to post seemingly ludicrous derogatory/defaming statements that are believed to reflect upon the credibility of posts on a respected site, please post examples of the ridiculous disparities.

    I've several specimens that can be posted to counter your charges, and documentation of PCI coins that were removed from their slabs, receiving like grades from the "top tier" TPG.

    I've found PCI and other TPG to be credible as can be shown of the espoused TPG. They even slabbed "troubled" coins in an appropriately colored holder, applying a reasonable objective grade with an "exception" stated on the label.

    I believe you'll find in the infamous PCI trial, that testimony was supplied by a TPG of a graded coin condition, of which they are occasionally guilty. This believed Faux Pas cost the defendants appreciable damages, upon diminishing credibility.

    Incredulous posts of this site are viewed when researching credibility of TPG. Please extend consideration of ramifications.

    JMHO
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    A concrete floor and a hammer works on all the TPGS slabs! At one place I worked there were so many slivers of plastic on the basement floor that boots were a must!
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    You'll need to qualify that. Dealers using that service in the 1990's complained that the red and green label PCI slabs were graded too conservatively! IMO, around 1999 - the place started to slip. You may be referring to the gold labeled coins.

    BTW, I have seen over graded, damaged, repaired, and badly cleaned coins in EVERY MAJOR TPGS holder. If you look at enough slabs, you'll agree. Nevertheless, the TPGS are a great protection for those who cannot authenticate or grade.
     
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  15. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    SEGS and PCI CAN be acceptable but require you to look at them more carefully than the others.
    And I recently cracked out an ANACS coin, shipped it to NGC and it came back DETAILS (improperly cleaned).
    On closer look I agreed with NGC so even ANACS needs careful scrutiny.
     
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  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Too broad a statement. PCI has had six different owners over the years and grading has varied from very good to very bad depending on the owner and holder time period.

    I am surprised it took so long for someone to bring up SGS.
     
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  17. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

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  18. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I don't believe you'll ever be accused of excessively tolerating a "task". Patience, my son, patience!!
     

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  19. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Does anyone besides me think that discussing who the worst graders are out there isn't the greatest idea? There's a guy who sued the internet once because of this.
     
  20. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    How does one sue the internet?
     
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  21. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    And IMHO, quite the contrary, motel rooms and baby diapers are criticized all the time.
     
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