Tiny Trime... How do I grade thee?

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    1856 date. Central detail is a stone cold XF45. Outer rims are AG03. It's not bent or cleaned or scratched or anything! I paid $41. The dark spot on the reverse is a shallow mark or hit as best I can tell. But maybe I'm wrong. Assuming it straight-grades, what do you call it?
    It's going to NGC, economy grading. We'll all learn something from this one.
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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Very carefully? :p

    I was at a coin shop a few weeks ago and a guy came in wanting to sell one and asked "do you buy Jewish coins?" I had to hold the laughter in but I could obviously understand why he thought that.
     
  4. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'd be inclined to punt here. The coin has clearly had some unusual experiences in its lifetime, based on the wear and surfaces. Split the difference and call it F or VG details.
     
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  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I am at XF40 - of course I know nothing about these or what NGC will actually say. :)
     
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  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I like the original dirt/toned surfaces. That's one reason why I bought it! But to each his own!
     
  7. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I'm at EF-40. The rims were often weak on these.
     
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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I like the clash
     
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  9. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    It's a striking issue.
     
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm in the EF camp as well. The shield exhibits little wear - and neither do the reverse devices. If it were actually worn (and not a striking issue), the central areas would show more wear. I suspect, however, that the graders will net grade a bit (that is, silently knock the grade down a couple of pegs) for the strike.
     
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  11. SSG_Gonzo

    SSG_Gonzo Well-Known Member

    These 3 cent pieces just get me laughing, I would have hated being around in a time when this was used. They are so small and fragile looking. Regarding your coin I would say its around a VG on the worse end due to the lack of detail around the outer edges, but then again it does have some great detail to it anyways so possibly an F12. I hope I am wrong and you get a better grade though.
     
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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well I'll tell you a little secret .......it's a rpd look at the 1,most 1856 are full strikes ,however this one must have been somewhat soft . I'm on board with more a strike issues then wear.
     
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Why do you want to slab this?
     
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  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

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  15. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I would guess F details, environmental damage. I think it was a metal detector find.
     
  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    To learn to grade these based on strike vs wear. That's also why I posted it. So we can all learn.
     
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  17. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    There's no corrosion. Just mottled toning.
     
  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    And pay how much tuition for this?
     
  19. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    $20 economy grading in an order with some Morgans and other coins. So I'll be into it $61 or so. If it grades XF it's a $100+ coin. If it's a new RPD then who knows what it's worth. If it's F12 then I'll lose a few bucks. Who cares?!? We're all going to learn something and YOUR tuition is FREE!
     
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  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Is this getting political??? :):):)
     
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  21. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Feel the Bern! Lol
     
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