The Low Ball Thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by hotwheelsearl, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Anyone collecting low ball com's let me know there's a seller on e bay has some that are reasonable .
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Edited.
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  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The file has been transfered twice before it makes it to CT.
    Sure that dosen' t help either.
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

  7. Jaja78

    Jaja78 Member

    Only by mail in offer with 20 proof of purchase box tops.
     
  8. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I really can't do much worse than this reverse here...
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  10. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I mainly want opinions on if this coin would grade or get a details grade... The rim is dented and there's a big circle that looks like PMD on the obverse... but it makes no sense. It's not a repaired hole.

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  12. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    How does CAC work in the case of lowball coins? Do you need to tell them that you're submitting it as a lowball? I'd think a CAC bean would have the opposite effect on the bottom end of what someone would want, since it would indicate the coin is strong for that grade.
     
  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Details all day long
     
  14. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Not at all. A green bean on a p01 coin is telling you that its a solid p01 lowball. Where it gets tricky is a gold bean on a p01 which imo would kill it. That said, I don't think I've ever seen a gold bean on a p01. I bet a gold sticker would be summarily removed from a p01 coin the second a submittor got it back lol
     
  15. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Actually, thinking a bit deeper on this, why would the gold bean get removed? The coin is still a P1 for registry purposes, bean or not... so it would retain some value (curio level, perhaps) even once lowball registries stopped creating demand.

    That's what I figured... any thoughts on what the circles are?
     
  16. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Not sure. But I've seen similar marks on nickles attributed to coin roller machines
     
  17. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    I'm inclined to think a hole punch was used. Then again I'm more than likely wrong.
     
  18. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I thought about that but if you zoom in on your phone or tablet you'll see concentric rings and pushed metal so that removes hand punch as a possibility. It seems to be mechanical in nature
     
  19. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    I see what you mean. Although, it could be a hammer-driven punch (or stamp) of some sort?
     
  20. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Yeah maybe
     
  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Several reasons for details:
    1. Misshapen planchet does not appear to be a mint error (PMD)
    2. Hole/dent thing on the front definitely PMD.
    2a. This kind of damage was so often found on Large Cents; go on eBay and look up "low grade large cent lot" or something and you'll see plenty of crazy stuff like this.
    Any coin with any sort of PMD at all, even a slight scratch, would get a details grade.

    Besides, the 1876-CC is only worth a couple of dollars more than a 1876-blank, so you're not losing out on much.
     
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