Coin dies.

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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    I have never seen an actual coin die...pics yes...does anyone know where dies go when they are done? I'm sure they are stored somewhere in the Treasury??
     
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  3. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    I think by law they have to be destroyed
     
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  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Sometimes they are canceled and offered for sale. Older ones I've seen have a heavy X though the face. Some of the ones offered from the state quarter program were completely defaced. So you got a blank die.and their word that it was used on a certain coin.
     
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  5. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    Well you know if the government said it, it has to be true.


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  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Most get ground down to nothing then sold as novelty items.
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  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Oh, wow - just noticed, that was post #

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    I know - get a life - LOL!!!
    Sorry Fish for changing your thread - won't happen again!
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    They are out in the market and you can buy them. If I remember, a scrap dealer found a bunch of them too and they were sold into the numismatic market. I have several different coin and token dies. Token dies are usually cheaper (still?) and are not usually cancelled. IMO, The "X" cancelled Proof dies are the top of the line. Wish I had one.

    As for Treasury storage. I saw a "die closet" at the Philadelphia Mint in the 1970's. If I remember correctly, the Secret Service had some dies and off metal die trials on display in a case at one office in DC.
     
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  9. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    What would an Obverse & Reverse die with an X prevent someone filling in the X with a hard weld then machining it on a CNC tooling center - Well, of course not counting the 35 years behind bars thing!!
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    The mint used to offer cancelled State Quarter dies back early in the program. Then, they suddenly stopped. Methinks shenanigans was afoot.
     
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  11. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I see now that the blanks are originally turned on a lathe for concentricity - they just put them back into a lathe and turn OFF the details!!
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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I think, back then, they were just canceling the dies with a big fat 'X' and leaving much of the detail.
     
  13. cpm9ball

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    When a coin dies they bury it, and then @paddyman98 goes to work with his metal detector.

    Chris;);)
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Chris? You been nippin' at the nectar? devil.gif
     
  15. cpm9ball

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    I quit smoking and drinking at the same time. Now, my life is so boring that I have to act stupid to have something to laugh about.

    Chris:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:
     
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  17. rockypa

    rockypa New Member

    They deface them and remelt them to make new dies. On a few occasions the will deface some and sell as a set with a first coin. I know because i work there.
     
  18. cpm9ball

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    I had an acquaintance that retired from the Philly Mint, and he made the die punch for these.......

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    Chris
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Why deface them? Don't matter a hoot when you melt them........
     
  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Ken ,
    Dads last job after 47 years with the Federal Reserve he issued and destroyed currency for the Fed . In those days they would cut it in half length wise burn one half one day and the other was burned at a later date. When burnt the paper looked like coal being burnt. And of course the ashes were sifted, even though the temperature was about the same as used for cremation .
     
  21. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Melt them?? It would take a foundry furnace at 2700 degrees to melt them worthless dies!
     
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