Picked up in upstate NY. Severe damage not sure if was self inflicted.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Roger Mitchell, Dec 13, 2023.

  1. Roger Mitchell

    Roger Mitchell New Member

    What looks like gouge marks is raised die on reverse.
    And the obverse side which looks rough and worn away is completely smooth. Weight is 5.72 g
    2022 p Nina Otero- Warren
    Sorry if my pics don't meet standard. Im a amateur!
    Opinions please, Thank you in advance.
     

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  3. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    PMD…. May have been used to level a table or something like that….

    one question though… how would a coin self inflict damage? ;)
     
  4. Roger Mitchell

    Roger Mitchell New Member

    Ha ha your right , wrong choice of words.
     
  5. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    whew… thought this might be a night of the living coins thing… lol
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @Roger Mitchell
    It's what I call.. DEFDAM - Definitely Damaged
    Not a mint error of any kind :yack:

    Self inflicted? How is that possible? Coins aren't sentient o_O
     
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  7. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    They aren't?? Wow! You just spoiled my whole year. :)
     
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  8. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    Now you've gone and hurt my coins' feelings! Shame!
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wow, that one's had a rough time of it in its short lifespan so far.
     
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  10. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Your pictures are actually very good for a newbie. Welcome to CT!!

    Better luck next time. Good luck on the hunt!
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Just for fun.
    Is it the same size as a normal quarter? Stack that on top of another quarter and shoot a photo. Also, what does the third size look like? For some reason I see unstruck luster, could be the photos. Or the totties I have had. Looks too round to be damage.
     
  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Your coin looks like it has been flattened in a hydraulic press that has a rough and smooth side.
     
  13. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Just a few tonnes short of a "railroad quarter" . . . . .

    Z
     
  14. Roger Mitchell

    Roger Mitchell New Member

    I thought I'd take pics with my microscope, there is more going on here with the die then some of these replies.
     

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  15. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    So explain how they occurred during the minting process. To only one coin, on a press moving fast enough to produce well over a billion coins per year. You have been given several good explanations for the damage to the coin. With out being present when it was done to the coin a certain answer can’t be given, but it is damage pure and simple.
     
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  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Would guess bad road rash or a long ride in a dryer tub until the owner couldn't stand it any more . Not a mint action. IMO
     
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  17. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Hey Roger, the replies here are spot on with their honesty and accuracy.

    If you're committed to your statement that 'there is more going on with the die' then there's a very easy way to substantiate your belief. Just send it in to any of the TPG'ers and have them attribute the error/s. This way you'll have it slabbed and protected from any possible damage going forward. No need to get into a losing debate. The pro's will be happy to cash your check and give their unbiased, professional opinion.

    Now for my unprofessional opinion. I'd take the $40-$50 fee they'd charge you and go buy a nice coin with it. I think the old saying fits perfect here. If you're sure of your stance, put your money where your mouth is. ;)
     
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  18. Roger Mitchell

    Roger Mitchell New Member

    I appreciate all the feedback for sure, any and all. I'm certainly no where's near knowledgeable in this field. Therefore arguing with anyone would be fruitless on my part. Thanks for ALL replies !!!
     
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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Have you tried to see if the coin is bigger than a normal quarter? Thinner? That will help you get a better understanding of what happened to the surfaces. Check it again. Stack it on a normal quarter and take some photos.
     
  20. Roger Mitchell

    Roger Mitchell New Member

    The coin is slighty thinner. And a little larger than quarters from the same year.
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Seeing that the coin has full reeding then the coin was struck in the collar. This eliminates any type of partial collar, and broad struck coin. The collar was in place, so the coin being larger can't happen at the mint. It puts the coin into a post mint damage situation.
    How? I would say that a hydraulic press was used to squash the coin. Honestly though only the one who did it knows.
    Do you have error reference?
    If you don't here is the link save it to your favorites for reference.
    https://www.error-ref.com/
     
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