This was also in a mixed lot and came without an attribution. So far I think it is from Selge and on the reverse there is perhaps anunusual thunderbolt; it doesn't look like the thunderbolts at wildwinds or acsearch, e.g.: https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/pisidia/selge/sg5491.jpg https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3039436 and there are no letters on the reverse either. Perhaps it is a flower? AE 11, Pisidia, Selge, 2nd-1st century BC 11 mm, 1.721 g BMC 47-48, SNG Cop 263, Lindgren 1353, SNG von Aulock 5822; SNG France 1983; Sear 5491; Ob.: Anepigraphic. Head of bearded Herakles to r. Rev.: Upright thunderbolt; at right, bow topped with griffin head; [Σ-E]? missing across fields
Another fun little Greek bronze! You've got the general attribution correct. I haven't checked the catalog refs., but any var. might be about control symbols. I'm at the airport so I don't have photos of my specimens but I'll show ACSearch exs. Some have a bow case or some other object, but yours has the object that is usually described as a Griffin headed bow. (I've also seen "arc ending in head of stag" and similar confused suggestions.) But to me, it's clearly something else entirely: I feel strongly this one must be one of the Carnyx-type military horns shaped like dragons, etc. (If so, very cool!) Different ancient groups had their own varieties but this looks a lot like the classic Celtic one. Here is a very clear example. Ex CNG (NOT MINE) Leu described a similar one as griffin-headed bow: If you know what a carnyx looks like, I feel it's unmistakable. I'll try to edit in photos once I'm through airport security... ETA: usually described as a Gallic/Celtic object, the Carnyx (horn) [Wiki; compare images to the CNG spec. above]) was well known & used throughout ancient Europe, and appear all over Greek & Roman coins. My favorite Carnyx depiction is on the obverse of the Hostilius Saserna "dreadlocked Gallia" denarius
Totally agree with you that it seems to be a carnyx and not a griffin. I also think that Herakles' head is wreathed with styrax and not with oak; actually I also think that on the reverse there is a styrax flower and not a thunderbolt, though I haven't found a coin with a strax flower, so I guess I'm wrong
I think I found the attribution. It is an AE Half-unit like this one: https://www.cgbfr.com/pisidie-selge-demi-unitie-sup,bgr_352535,a.html However, they don't say if the bow has a carnyx or griffin head. They just say "Foudre posé verticalement et arc " which literally means "lightning set vertically and bow" they don't say "Thunderbolt" like one can see at wildwinds; it confuses me... They also say "Portrait stylisé, Imitation ?." even more confusing
That's the same type as the CNG and Leu specimen above (or possibly an imitation of that type). Their reverse photo is just rotated. It's quite a common & recognizable type, so I don't think there's a big mystery about which type of coin it is. There's room to debate what's being illustrated to the right (though I do believe the central device is clearly a lighting bolt, since this is very much how it's illustrated on many Greek coins, and there are many other types from the same mint and others in the region that make it clear). They're saying it might be a local imitation, but they're not sure. Which is possible, and might apply to yours. Here's a similar one of mine: