Opinions on this possible 1851/81 1C

Good weekend to all of you,

In my first year of collecting I started a small date set of large braided hair cents. According to my records I picked this coin up at the ANA show in Dallas in 2016 for $18 from a "$20" bin.

I was going back noting estimated survival rates on the short set when I noticed that a 1851/81 variety existed. I read about it briefly and noticed my 51 appeared to be that variety.

Here is the coin. What do you think? Thanks in advance.



Below is the link to the coin facts for the 1851/81

http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/1895

 

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Boy, that sure looks like it to me...

 

Of course it is the overdate.

EDIT: OP, please ignore the next post!

 

I don't think so. I don't see the upper loop of the "8" on the right side. Maybe it is a misplaced "5" (MPD).

Chris

 

Thanks for the comments so far. I thought it was a possible MPD but that does not explain the extra notch on the 1. It will be my first real variety although found on accident after the purchase.

 

Possible.. send it in to PCGS

 

Have you checked it in hand to a Newcomb 42 or 44?

 

1. No its a RPD 001 check Wexler you'll see a image of same 1

 

@Conder101 PLEASE HELP!

 

my vote is yes it is the overdate

 

So far we are 3.5 to 2. I will wait for some others to chime in.

 

It's not an overdate.

It's a date punch blunder. It was caused when the date was accidentally punched upside down, then corrected.

It does look to be the DPB.

 

The tides have changed.

3.5-3

 

I think omega raptor agreed it was the 18510ver81 He just said that its not technically an overdate.

 

MY BAD...old timers called this (improperly) an over date. As we all know it is a 51 over an upside down 18! This is a MPD. Color me a redfaced .

My sincere apologies to @cpm9ball as I thought he was being a wacko When I was the poster of misinformation!

 

It's a so called 51/81 overdate, also known as N-3, in what appears to be middle to late die state. The 51/81 is there, but there are also a lot of other attribution points showing on the coin. On the obverse there apears to be a strong line up from the inner hair curl to the main hair curl. I believe I can also see a fine line under the right pendant of the T in LIBERTY.

Reverse attribution points include a line at the base of N in CENT and another strong line in the N in UNITED, specifcally coming out of the top left of that N.

Date position is also correct, and no other 51 die has that date position and attribution marks.

N42 and N44 have the entire date shifted much more to the right, definitely not a pillowed die variety.

 

To add to the fun. PCGS calls these an inverted date. Fun coin.

 

From what I know on overdates (very little) this sure looks like something with little bit over the one and the section under the 5, my vote is yes.

 

This is my fault. It is NOT an overdate.

The way I heard it: When the date was being punched into the die, the engraver first punched in the "1" then the "8." When he realized he had put the numerals in the wrong position because the die was upside down, he turned the die right side up and punched in the date again "1-8-5-1." the "8" and "1" from his mistake partly show under the "5" and "1" only they appear upside down and backwards on the finished coin.

 

I am learning so much. Y'all keep talkin'

So I have upgraded the votes and I think I am at:

7.5-2