1938 British Penny mistrike - any good?

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  1. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I don't usually get into Error coins, and the British are far less interested in them than the Americans. Do you think this one is worth selling on Ebay?

    1938 Penny with weak but double strike on the obverse and damage to the reverse.

    1938 penny mistrike.jpg
     
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  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    From your picture I cannot see anything out of the ordinary, but I really cannot see much at all.

    As you noted, British interest in error coins is mostly extreme ones such as mules. Minor manufacturing blips do not seem to atract the attention that US coins get.
     
  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Upon enlargement of your photo, I think I can see some tripling on both sides of the coin, but I'm not really sure of what I see. Maybe someone with more knowledge of these will soon come along to offer an opinion.
     
  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    A curious beast, this. Plainly overstruck in the positive (therefore not a "vise job" using another coin), yet the rim remains developed in full, discounting most of the possibilities for in-Mint creation of the effect (which would usually require a broadstrike or something similar). I'd lean towards some sort of postmint mischief involving an ersatz "transfer die," especially with visible damage on the reverse resembling the surface of a vise, but curiosity would probably force me to offer a couple bucks for it at auction just to be sure.

    I'm kind of a sucker that way. :)
     
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  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    interesting looking for sure. I have no idea how that happened.
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I would send to ANACS, they are great with this strange stuff
     
  8. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Thanks for all your interest and information. Edit - Forum Rules
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hello. I have heard this statement once before from another British member. I thought it was silly and he started some argument that the Royal Mint made no errors and they were better in quality than US coins. I then showed him a bunch of well known British errors to show that it could occur just as it does in US mints. Anyway.. The point I was trying to make is that it's an unnecessary comment.
     
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  10. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I am not quite sure what is "Silly" about my statement? I don't find error coins particularly interesting and I find very few British based collectors who are. That was all I was saying!
    I certainly would not claim that the Royal Mint "make no errors" - they certainly do and have throughout their history. At the moment they seem to be making more than in the past - possibly under stronger commercial pressure than before. British collectors do get excited about the big errors (the undated 20p from 2008 is a case in point) and the occasional off-metal strike seems to be popular, but the more minor errors seem to be largely ignored. That's just the way it is over here.
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Cheers my friend! ;)
     
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  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    he isn't saying that there are no errors, he is saying that the Brits are not that interested in them
     
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  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I got it.. As an American though I just love Error Coins! ;)
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    If true (I don't know) this may be an opportunity for those interested as there was a point :jawdrop: in my collecting life when US collectors were not interested in error's either. :yuck::yuck:
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks like a "soft die" fake multi-strike coin. Not a real error, someone either playing around or deliberately creating a fake error. You take a coin and press it into something like a brass plate. The plate takes and impression of the coin and in doing so become workhardened. The brass plate can now act as a "soft" die. You take the coin move it a bit and force it into the plate again. The soft die will raise a slight impression on the coin but it is too soft to wipe out the original design as a regular steel die would. The brass plate will also pick up a fainter secondary impression from the coin. Press a new coin into that soft die and the resulting coin will show its regulars strike and two fainter raised impressions, making it look like a triple strike.

    In the 1950's and 60's error coin collecting was not popular in the US either. (It was even worse in earlier years when collectors often consigned error coins to the trash can.) They even had a general term for errors, FIDO's (Freaks, Irregular, Defective, Oddities) In others words "dogs". VERY few US collectors were interested in errors back then. Great Britain may be at the same stage now that the US was then. Who knows in 20 years they may be very interested in error coins.
     
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    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

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