Anyone here who can read Aradian numerals?

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  1. cmezner

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    Have been struggling to attribute this coin correctly. As for now, after celebrating Thanksgiving and several glasses of wine I think it is this:

    Æ 16 or Hemichalkous
    Phoenicia, Arados, Aradian date 116 (144 – 143 BC)
    16 mm, 3.84 g
    BMC Greek coins of Phoenicia, p. 18 (in the pdf p. 174), No.136-137; Sear Greek, 6001v; HGCS 10, No. 88; Rouvier 177 (var. different year)

    I think it is like this one, but I'm not sure:
    https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/03/29/ar-no-ztr-116n12-c-hb/

    Ob.: Anepigraphic. Bearded head of Melqart/Zeus to r. Border of dots.
    Rev.: triple-pointed ram of galley to left, Phoenician date 116 (144-143 BC) below; Phoenician letters Nun upload_2023-11-23_22-25-20.png and Ayin upload_2023-11-23_22-25-44.png above. Border of dots.



    upload_2023-11-23_22-26-30.png upload_2023-11-23_22-26-42.png

    a picture of the reverse with light effects, trying to see the scrip more clearly:
    upload_2023-11-23_22-27-59.png

    Can someone help me out of my misery, please:confused:

    Please share your coins with Aradian script and how you were able to read it:D
     
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  3. David@PCC

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    Martin's site is the best. You could reach out to him on Forvm. He helped me identify this one.
    g070.jpg
    Arados
    Year 164, 96/95 BC
    Obvs: Female bust Astarte-Europa right, wearing stephane, and veil over back of head. Border of dots.
    Revs: Phoenician script "Yodh Shin Beth Daleph Mem" (yšbdm) above, Recumbent humped bull lying left. Aradian ΔΞP date in ex.
    AE 21x22mm, 10.37g
    Ref: BMC 324; Duyrat 4418/4419; HGC 10, 79 (R2)
     
  4. cmezner

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    Is Martin his user name at the Forum? Or can you please tell me the url of his site?
     
  5. Curtis

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  8. Curtis

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    Also, here's one of mine I IDed using that site
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  9. David@PCC

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    His username is Arados, he is a moderator. The site you linked to is his.
     
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  11. GinoLR

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    The upper legend is upload_2023-11-25_13-48-54.png , the 1st letter is not an 'ayin but a C, written as a mirrored D.
    The date must be 116, because I count 6 strokes (a stroke = 1). The year 116 of the Aradian era is 144/3 BC.

    Here is a pic of a coin like yours (not mine) dated year 115 (but there could have been a 6th stroke off flan).


    upload_2023-11-25_13-48-29.png
     
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  12. cmezner

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    Thank you @GinoLR. However, when you look at the Aradian letters, the letter
    Daleth is like this: upload_2023-11-25_16-31-25.png on my coin and also on the coin you posted you can see clearly an ' after the letter [​IMG] which is the letter Ayin
     
  13. GinoLR

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    I didn't say it was a daleth, I just said it was written like a mirrored D. But you may be right, for several people it's an 'ayin.
     
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  14. cmezner

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    And here is Ayin: upload_2023-11-25_16-55-45.png the Aradian alphabet doesn't have a letter C
     
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