Coin value?? Supply & demend

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  1. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    I was just wondering how much credence I can put into a value quote that came along with the discription on this coin, $245 / 228 EUR) seems a bit high, is this coin a rare one or what??? Eagle-One-hand-cup.jpg
    AEOLIS. Kyme. Circa 300-250 BC. Tetrachalkon (Bronze, 18.5 mm, 3.57 g, 10 h), struck under the magistrate Lysias. ΛΥΣΙΑΣ Eagle with closed wings standing to right. Rev. K-Y One-handled cup. For the magistrate, For the type, see SNG Copenhagen 46-68 and SNG Munich 448-457. Glossy dark green patina; well-centered and scarce in such fine condition. Good very fine.
     
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  3. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    I have one, but mine is with Magister Deonisius and it has remnants of silver plating..
     
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  4. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Just who were the deifferent magistrates at this time??
    I do also have one however I can't seem to identify the magister?? 18set-Eagle-One-handled-cup.jpg
     
  5. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Just who were the deifferent magistrates at this time??
    I do also have one however I can't seem to identify the magister??
     
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  7. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    With my coin above I can't quite make out all the lettering, so a list of magistrates around this time period in the area would narrow things down, I have identified 2 along with yours; ΛΥΣΙΑΣ & ΣΤΑΣΙΠΠΟΣ both look nothing like the lettering on mine? I will just have to keep researching I think...
     
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  8. paschka

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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I dunno.... I paid $16 in 2016 for this example:
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    AEOLIS, KYME
    AE 11
    OBVERSE: AΡIΣT-ANΔΡOΣ, eagle standing right
    REVERSE: K-Y, one-handled vase
    Struck at Aeolis, 300-200BC
    1.36g, 11mm
    Sear #4187; SNG Copenhagen 41-3
     
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  10. -monolith-

    -monolith- Supporter! Supporter

    The quick answer is your paying for the provenance. It is a fine specimen but not for that price. The coin is a common type and magistrate but is "scarce" in that condition. I personally would not have paid more than $100+- for the coin. However if you enjoy it then it doesn't matter what you paid.

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  11. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

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    Here's my coin for you to see. I bought it from an unknown collection. It has spots of silver.Aiolis. Kyme. ΔΙΟΝΥCΙΟC (Dionysios), magistrate circa 350-250 BC.
    Bronze Æ
     
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  12. -monolith-

    -monolith- Supporter! Supporter

    Here are some different varieties of Aeolis, Kyme coins from my collection:

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  13. paschka

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  14. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    This a new magistrate that I have not see yet, thank you for providing that!!
    I am still figuring out what the name of this magistrate is on this coin??
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  16. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    I have sold many of this type, although in lesser condition. Still $245 seems like a high price - unless this is a really rare type.
     
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  17. Blake Davis

    Blake Davis Well-Known Member

    P.S. Coins from Kyme seem to be pretty common now - I saw one that looked like this for $40 on VCOINS
     
  18. -monolith-

    -monolith- Supporter! Supporter

    It's one of the more "rare" types, I paid about $36 for it in 2008:
    Obverse: Magistrate Zwilos. Draped bust of Artemis right, bow and quiver over shoulder
    Reverse: KY above, Z-Ω I-Λ O-Σ across fields, one-handled cup between two laurel branches
    References: SNG Stockholm 2209; SNG von Aulock 1642; SNG Cop 108; SNG Tuebingen 2701.
     
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  20. Steven Michael Gardner

    Steven Michael Gardner Well-Known Member

    Thank you for that one , I'll add the magistrate to my list, still it does not look like I come across a match yet for mine???
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