Is this a 1799 Large cent?

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  1. Coins4Eli

    Coins4Eli Collector of Early American Copper

    Hello everyone! Just purchased this large cent and I couldn't help but wonder if it could possibly be a 1799. It is most likely a 1798 but I just want to be sure. Thanks for your input! 1799Rev.JPG 1799Obv.JPG
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    1798. ;)
     
  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Just curious as how you came to that conclusion? Not saying you are wrong.
     
  5. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Geez…. I don’t know how you could discern an eight from a nine on that one.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2023
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  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I see that the metal has been moved around but not really where the loop of the lower loop of the eight would be. Maybe @Jack D. Young could offer some insight to this one.
     
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  7. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Pretty decent match; a shame the reverse is toast...

    99 obvs.jpg
     
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  8. Coins4Eli

    Coins4Eli Collector of Early American Copper

    Do you think that it would be worth sending in for grading?
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Intriguing. The answer is going to lie with the Sheldon variety. Some EAC specialist who sees this may be able to attribute the die markers and answer the question without having to rely on that tantalizingly incomplete final digit.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yes, but only IF it turns out to be an already-confirmed 1799.

    No, if you're counting on the grading service to atribute it for you.

    I'd get an EAC (Early American Coppers) expert on here to identify the Sheldon variety for you. The question might be answerable even without looking at the date, based on the die markers. I'm just out of my depth when it comes to all that.

    PS- alas, the wiped-out reverse may have also wiped out any useful die markers, so maybe the experts won't know, either. That does make it more challenging. But I'd say there's a chance someone can still solve the mystery.
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

  12. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    20+ years as an EAC Member and still learning! I forwarded the images to my Group to review as well. From what we can see, looks like a 1799; LIBERTY and date numerals only line up completely to the 1799 S-189 and no similar 1798.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2023
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ooh! The plot thickens! :greedy:
     
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  14. Coins4Eli

    Coins4Eli Collector of Early American Copper

    Oh my, it looks like that was $35 well spent. :)
     
  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    If it’s a 1799 it’s a real winner. It’s had a hard life. But actually has much better surfaces than the typical 1799 as most are corroded ground finds.
     
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