Another PCGS restoration - ok, I guess?

To sum it all up for INSIDER....
stop giving him an IGGY Everyone,so he's not stuck talking to noobs and himself For Ever & Ever⏳⌛

 

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I missed you around here @heavycam.monstervam . What does all this mean? "IGGY" & "noobs?"

Oh, and what do you think of the coin in the OP? Come on now (I like this face - just found it today and it fits many posts here). Do you like the before or after and why?

Here is and "iggy" and a "noobs." If you old timer's would spend more time EDUCATING us, and quit complaining about colors, we would all learn a bit more.

 

I'm just busting your capped halves man

 

As I posted once before here: I can take it.

Is Iggy the old guy? I watched .54 seconds of it - no women. That is the first music vomit video I've looked at in years. Not my taste. What's "noobs" and what about the coin - before or after?
I know, nobody is under obligation to answer questions around here.

 

Page freakin 3. What'd I tell you guys

 

Did you tell them to stick to the topic and answer the OP's question?

BTW, as yet, no one on CU has said anyone but Hall is doing conservation . At least that is how it was in the beginning.
So far @Cascade seems to be correct...perhaps he enjoys it.

 

If it wasn't PVC, then it didn't need conservation at all.

Doug, would you ever advise someone to dip a circulated coin?

 

OK, fair. In this case, though, I cannot imagine - if we assume the green wasn't PVC, on which you and I will have to disagree - any reason whatsoever to conserve the coin. Part of conservation is knowing when to say "no," and the OP's coin (aside PVC) is a perfect example.

The dark areas adhering to the lower obverse are sharp and abrupt enough to be fair indication of past cleaning. It seems as if PCGS reasoned "well, we might as well finish the job" and removed the rest, to the coin's detriment. It just baffles me why they'd consider such a thing.

All their vaunted technology is useless if they don't employ it properly, and in this case I don't believe they did.

 

IMHO, The dark areas SD pointed out are of two types. The toning stains under the date are the type that may indicate past cleaning but I don't think so here. The small, thin, black patches near 5 o'clock are raised corrosion. Acetone will have NO EFFECT on the latter; that is why they (regrettably) decided to dip the coin.

 

How do you remember all these threads you old dinosaur?

 

Whoa!

I found this on another forum. You guys who hate the faces and color better hope I don't learn how to do things like this!

 

I understand why you had it done, but like some others (and without a rainbow colored response) I like the original better than the conserved coin.

 

That was my very first thought when I just saw it before I read below it. Go ahead and try is all I can say but consider yourself warned...

 

Some backstory - yes the coin was originally in a secure PCGS slab. People who know more than I do looked at the coin in hand and universally agreed that it certainly looked like PVC residue - as did everyone here except Doug who says it couldn't be because PCGS wouldn't let it go through. I did notice that in the PCGS info site they say there foreign material assessment is a new technique - so I wonder if this coin might have been originally slabbed before they started doing that, but I certainly wouldn't know if that could be possible.

The coin was sent to PCGS with the intention of it either being conserved successfully or for a claim that it wasn't accurately graded. They removed the substance and sent it back in a regular (not secure) slab with the same AU50 grade. Since the photo techniques are different I can't really make any judgement about the color. I doubt the surface (scratches, etc) are different - they just show up more in the post cons picture. However, some, but not all of the dark spots that weren't "green" were also removed - so I assume it was dipped. In hand it doesn't look terrible - but it is quite bright. I have another silver coin from 1840 that I've posted that is the same color, but has much more luster - which I suppose proves a coin can be dipped without eliminating it's luster - but that coin (a half dollar) while about same color but with far more luster is graded xf45.

 

What kind of holder was it? May not help with knowing for sure but could at least pin down a general time frame with when it was graded.

 

I've been able to save them but they don't move. I'm going to save this thread to my computer and try that.