Most trusted grading service?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Dan Galbato, Sep 23, 2023.

  1. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The line on the 96-S could either be a staple scratch or a deliberate cut made with the tip of a knife. A knife cut can look raised, since the cut raises metal on the coin. A "details" grade means the grade strictly by the details remaining on the coin while also calling out a problem. In this case, the holder would read "Unc Details, Scratched" or if it's a knife cut "Unc Details, Damaged." Such coins are difficult to value because people generally don't like problem coins, and price guides are for problem-free coins. The upside is that you have authentication. With a $20 Lib., that's still worth a lot, since you'd know it's almost an ounce of gold. Same goes for the $10 Indian.
     
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  3. Dan Galbato

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    tks! Looking at some of their photo examples and the grades they received, I’ll be either surprised or disappointed. All I can hope for is an honest grade. I can always drill a hole in them and wear them as jewelry! Lol.
     
  4. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You're asking me late, Dan, like ten years late. But from what I remember gold is still treated as bullion for the most part and they didn't even used to grade these as the precious metals value typically always ran well ahead of any numismatic value that could be assigned. Or that's at least how I had it when I used to submit to the TPGs. Don't know how they look on these, today, exactly, I'm sorry.
     
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  5. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    not a problem Ed! I just watched the tube video again and I did everything as shown. I’ll try again and see what happens. The guy in the video was sending in gold coins so there shouldn’t be a problem. Maybe it’s me. Tks
     
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  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    My last voucher submission included one gold coin - a 1499 Goldgulden from Schwabach (Germany).
     
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  7. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member


    Sounds interesting. Did it come back yet?
     
  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Yes, but I sent it in back in February, I think. XF40.

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  9. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    Nice old coin. XF 40 seems low. Lots of sharp detail.
     
  10. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    Well, after calling PCGS three times this morning and getting the same lame recording, I’m convinced they need a better customer service center. I’ve sent off a few detailed emails with my questions. so I’ll wait and see if someone at this so called, best grading service, replies! Kinda put a kink in sending them thousands of dollars of gold coins when you can’t reach a human to ask a simple question.
     
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  11. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Consider having a CAC member submit to CACG for you. Hold your vouchers for the right time and place to use. This definitely wasn't the time.
     
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  12. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    That's been the gist of several threads here and on the PCGS board: their customer service sucks.

    It's been a problem for a long time... they don't answer email and they don't answer the phones. They also don't seem to care.

    The consensus best bet is to call right when they open and hope for a low place in line. And then that the CSR you get knows which is a** and which is elbow.
     
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  13. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

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  14. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    You are a wise man with the talent to tell it as it is! Tks!
     
  15. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    Instead of sending in my coins all at once, I’ll send in just one at a time and not the best coin first.
    PCGS is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’ll get!
     
  16. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    certified authorized coin grader? CAC? Sorry charley. My color is showing! Lol
     
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  17. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    If you've missed the news...

    CAC (Certified Acceptance Corp) are the people who review PCGS and NGC graded coins, awarding them a green or gold sticker.

    Green means solid for the grade. If you conceptually divide coins of a given grade into A-better, B-ok, and C-marginal or low then "solid" are the As and Bs.

    Gold means solid for the next higher grade (theoretically a gold MS65 would green at MS66).

    CACG is the new grading companu founded by the founder of CAC (who was also in PCGS and NGC at their beginnings).

    CACG won't give a C coin the grade.

    The betting is that when the music stops CACG graded coins will sell for higher prices. Just like CAC stickered coins sell for more.

    YMMV depending on the KoolAid you drink.
     
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  18. Dan Galbato

    Dan Galbato Well-Known Member

    thank you!
     
  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    CAC Grading.
    TPG.
    With your emphasis being a Gold Piece(s), there is no downside with CACG (or CAC). If it is Gold, I would defer to the opinion of JA.

    There is no "fee" i.e. pay a rather expensive "member" fee and receive "free" vouchers. The submitter or the submitter on your behalf, must be a CAC member. CAC is a 4PG
    CACG does not require a NGC/PCGS previously encapsulated piece. It will accept raw pieces.

    Your The Guy, and the choices rest with "The Guy".

    To become a member @ CAC, requires an ANA membership, and one other membership such as LSCC (liberty Seated Collectors Club, and a couple of references. CAC does require a previously encapsulated piece by PCGS/NGC. CACG does not...well, they do if you wanted the Legacy I.D.

    In either situation and entity, the $ are reasonable.

    If this info helps, I am glad. If it does not, I am telling HER you don't like me.....
     
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  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    Good Lord. You simply have a personal issue with CAC and as usual, you have "facts' wrong. I won't repeat, your incorrect info, since I already did that in previous Posts.

    THE OP has the best tool available to avail him/her self the facts-navigate to the CAC website.

    KoolAid? Priceless.....
     
  21. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Not a good idea. The voucher is typically for all coins at the same time. They may not let you split it up across submissions. If they do, you're on the hook for return shipping and handling for each submission in addition to your outbound postage. That will add up fast.
     
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