1969 S cent. What’s up with the S? Doubled or Damaged?

My 1969S cent has a questionable mint mark. Am I seeing things?

 

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Nice machine (mechanical, ejection) doubling.

 

I agree! The date is mech. D. The mint mark looks funky. I was hoping it was repunched. Thanks

 

MD

 

RPM has nothing to do with Doubled Die

 

The mint mark has the same attributes, you can't see that? Why then would one be strike doubling and the other be a re-punching? Another thing, that mint mark was punched after the die was hubbed. Find one where the mint mark looks like that and the date doesn't look like that and you've got something to talk about, but not when they're both the same. When they're both the same assume the same event as the cause. Here, look at this, the same thing going on...

 

thanks Ed. It must be hard teaching, or trying to teach those of us who don’t get it. Lol.. One of these days I’ll find real doubling and be thankful for the help. I thought I read that mm were hand punched at one time? Is that true?

 

Yes. When the dies were created they did not have any mint marks. Each Mint had their own counter stamp to stamp the MM's into the Die. Until 2000 when the MM's were added to the design. Remember that any mint mark before 2000 cannot be Doubled Die.

 

@Dan Galbato

http://lincolncentsonline.com/rpm.html

Some info

Others

https://www.lincolncentresource.com/index.html

And

http://www.varietyvista.com/

 

Paddy, so US mints added their own mm to dies after 2000 and coins minted before 2000 can not be doubled? I’m still confused. The famous example of the 1955 double cent and thinking that example was doubled has me searching for an explanation. Wasn’t that cent, date and mm doubled? Tks

 

Paddy, thanks for the links! Time to study! Lol

 

Not the mint mark.. never

 

There was no mint mark on the 55 doubled die.

 

tks rob

 

I think that you are confused by the terminology. A doubled die refers to the doubling on a die for a specific coin. After the production die is made the mint mark is added to the die. Therefore, the coin is doubled but any mint mark that was added cannot be doubled, only repunched. I think that is a correct statement (I am sure I will be corrected if it is not).

 

being confused is one of my better features. Re-punched mm and dd are two completely different things. When examples are found of D over S mms, I vision someone hand punching a mm on a coin. After a few million coins, the guy has to make a few errors. Lol.

 

Wait.. NO.. Mint Marks aren't stamped onto each coin.
They are punched into the Die that is used to strike the blank planchets

 

I'm messing with you! Lol! So what’s up with the D over S mms?

 

Ok!

So. I believe that when Denver Mint ran out of the Dies they were using in that year they were sent some San Fransisco Dies that were already stamped with the S mint mark. So the Denver Mint employee would have to stamp the D over the S.

Something like that

 

Then these are really not errors, but varieties?