The I in the second coin pictured looks like it could have been damaged where as the I in the first does not. Perhaps neither is. Note both have a "dot" that the lower part of the L points to. It's so strange when such similar coins come up for the same year and mint mark.
The "doubled" L's are a result of Die Deterioration. That's not a true Doubled Die issue. The letter I on both Cents took hits.
You can see where the I’s were struck by something unknown but hard enough to move the copper. The doubling you see on the L’s are from a die, r were in snd over used die.
paddyman your record on accurately assessing PMD when I post pics of two similar distorted letters has not been too good. How do you explain the "dots" on the left side of the I's? The force to bend the i's would have needed to come from the direction of the dots, but seems to have left them intact.
I think in your eagerness to find an error you are seeing similar damage and thinking they're a die markers. The dots are one example and if you look you can find matching damage on the other letters. For example, the top right section of the "Y" is smashed on both coins and so is the bottom leg of the "E". Please take the other members' advice who have much more experience than you or I. Happy hunting!
The damage to the Y and the E you point to are extremely common Mr. Numismatist. Can you show me an example of this sort of slanted "I" on two coins of the same year and mint, let alone two that are next to a doubled letter due to die deterioration?
Would be cool if you could find matching die markers. I must admit that you have a keen eye. You surprise me
Hey when a car drives over a coin. Do we know what tires it has. I’d go with my what 20 year mechanic says. It’s a trust and expert opinion
Like it or not. Paddy is kinda one of the best we got. There is quite of few shape tacks on CoinTalk. Special note. Shout it to paddymans father. @Paddy54. Both are experts in my eyes
Cheech I have to hand it to you. Your ability to view things objectively and independently is admirable. I do not defer final judgement to authority without an explanation. I was once told by a mechanic I needed to spend well over $1,000 to repair a head gasket on my car. Instead I found a sealant (that I had to use twice) for a total of less than $75.00. Its worked for over 20,000 miles. I like to learn. I can understand explanations of most things. Challenging authority keeps them on their toes.
His record is one heck of a lot better than your's. There is nothing special about the two coins. They are worth only a few cents each.
so authority is correct, you just won’t acknowledge that. From your posts that seems about right. On a least two of your threads I have provided you with an explanation as to what’s happened to the coin. In this thread @paddyman98 has provided you with the explanation for what you are seeing. You consistently ignore these explanations. If you know what is going on with the coin by all means explain it, otherwise take this chance to learn from collectors like paddy who’ve been at this a long time and have accumulated a ton of knowledge in that time. Otherwise it’s starting to feel like you’re approaching this from the same spot my 20 month old daughter will be in a few months, constantly spitting out “why?” because she just learned the word.
I think you are missing my point Idhair. I'm not saying my "record" or opinion is better than anyone's. I'm saying I often do not, personally, value opinions without any sort of explanation. It's the difference between authoritarian and authoritative. An authoritative individual can explain the reason for their opinion, while an authoritarian says "this is how it is because I have the power (by way of knowledge) so just take my word for it.
All you have ever shown on all your threads is completely PMD.. And I haven't been the only member telling you that!
They all come on tough as a nickel steak. In time, some of them catch on. Others, they never do, and there's nothing anybody can do about it.