Counterstamp appears modern :/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-BRITA...384933?hash=item4d47574ae5:g:CTIAAOSwGtNXiK-k
But, but, but, but..........what about all of the bidiots who think that all counterstamps are worth a premium? Chris
not sure if the host coin is real or not. is it ? are some counter stamps real on these coins and are they worth a premium ?
I don't know either, but that isn't my point. Not too long ago, there was a discussion on another thread about counterstamps and their value. Chris
after looking at my 19th century Krause 4th edition catalog. this coin looks to be a Crown KM#675 silver.... gold plated maybe ??? the years start at 1818-1822 and thee only gold 1 that looks like this is dated 1818 gold pattern not sure if this coin is legit or not... the date has thrown me way off. I am getting a red flag, but I do not know enough about these coins to be sure. have the Great Britain coin collectors chime in any time now...
It's a gold sovereign. Could be one of the recent generation of Chinese counterfeits, they do gold as well. There is some loss of sharpness that you would expect to see on genuine examples, but nothing blatantly wrong details wise for me to call it a fake from just the photos. That c/s though, not only looks modern, but it's not even of a style that would have been used contemporary to the coin. It's incuse for one thing.
That's the other thing. Napoleon's rule ended in 1814. Yet this counterstamp of his effigy is on an 1817 dated coin
I think you were on the wrong page in Krause. This is purporting to be a Gold Sovereign of 1817, Krause #674, about 3 pages later in my 7th edition. As to authenticity: 1. The coin looks a bit off - the surface of the horse's rump looks a little "bubbly" and not as natural as I would expect. 2. Napoleon was defeated and exiled in 1815 - so waht would anyone be doing putting his bust on a coin at least 2 years later? 3. Look at the seller's location. With all due respect to the honest traders in Poland I would be wary of anything being sold from Eastern Europe. What would such a coin be doing in that region anyway? A lot of Russian items of dubious veracity are shipped out through Eastern Europe so I would suspect it originated from there, whether the seller is aware of it or not.
What would an ancient Greek or Roman coin do in North America? Basically however I agree - would not buy such a piece from an eBay seller ... Christian
