New variety of 1949 S with spiked N

If this variation is listed anywhere please let me know. I can't find it. I just found the second example of this one today.

 

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I think it’s cool to find two. But I highly doubt that was from the mint. Unusual. I still can’t believe you found 2 of them. Hope you save them

 

They must of ran a few of those because looks like stages.

 

Filled die?

 

Looks like the top part of the N was broken off of the die.

 

One of the things I find fascinating about this example is how easy it is to assume PMD when it is not. In addition to the spiked N there are two other tiny examples I have used arrows to draw your attention to. The first is the 'ding' in the inner rim above the N (on both coins) and the second is the tiny notch on the lower portion of the N. Only looking at one coin you would assume both to be PMD.

 

Thanks

 

Dah. But did it run many. I believe those are from a die that didn’t die quickly. Just kickin ya. That coins got to show up somewhere on record

 

And you always assume (on many of your posts) it's not or can't be PMD

Both took circulation hits. It's not listed anywhere as a Variety.

 

Nope. If that were the case then there would be a blob of metal from the planchet (Die Chip) on the top of the N. Anything that breaks off the die would have metal flow into the void.

 

Interesting coins. Could we see full images of the coins? They look to be circulated. That makes the odds of finding both coins really low but it sure looks like they were struck with the same die.

 

You are so correct. Thank you.

 

Not that it is of any import to the overall conversation, but, there is a "blob" of metal in close proximity.

Apologies for the interruption...continue.

 

I see nothing that resembles a Die Chip anywhere.

 

I am not stating Die Chip. The word is "Blob".

Increase the image, and review the top of the inner Northeast Leg (Horn shape) of the N.

A 5X on the screen is a quick method.

 

Blob darn it, BLOB!!!...

 

Anything that needs that kind of magnification is kind of silly and unnecessary..

Oh well. Nothing there caused by a Die break IMHO

 

Please site a reference paddyman98. An authority that specifically states that there must be die chip and where that die chip must be located. Preferably 2 references. Thanks

 

I apologize.

I was just following thru on the commentary, considering the commentary is based on an oversized image, inclusive of your own commentary.

In my defense, though, a BLOB is easily visible on the image used in this Thread. I assumed you did not see it, and was courteously suggesting that by holding a 5X to the screen, you might be able to see what is clear in the image without 5X. I do suspect that the BLOB is visible at actual true size of the piece., so no harm, no foul.

Not to cause consternation, but a die chip need not be a die break need not be a die cud and need not be a die crack and need not be a BLOB to identify a stand alone anomaly

Kind of silly, I know. I do not have your expertise. I appreciate the correction. I will refrain from commenting about your thoughts in the future, to avoid discord.

 

I don't need to.
It's well known knowledge to the advanced error collector (many of us here on CoinTalk) that if there is a break on the die there will be a die chip, die crack or cud formed on the coin. Your Cent shows no break of any kind.