How much would this be worth?

Curious, @Onofrio Bacigalupo : What is the weight and dimensions of your coin? Additionally, the pics color is not very revealing: is it AE or AV? (I am assuming AE, but it looks silver colored from the pic). Additionally, would you be able to show a SIDE pic of the edge?

 

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Even if this was in a jar at a dig site, it would have still had patina and/or evidence of chemical interactions between the soil and the metal in the jar after such a long time buried.

And there is still the issues of the style and edges to overcome. It's a fake.

Thank you for coming to this forum anyway, but please keep the spamming and personal attacks to a minimum in the future.

 

Weight = 1/4 of an ounce

Diameter = 2 1/2 centimeters

 

Thank you. I'm tired of these personal attacks.

 

Would you mind the weight in grams, as that is how we spec ancients?, and is it 25mm or is the 2-1/2cm an approximate?

Curious as to its DEPTH dimensions in mm?

Additionally, is this AE or AV (color is hard to distinguish in your photo)?

Lastly, would you be able to post a side pic showing the edge of the coin?

You stated you were at this dig. Are you an Archaeologist? Work in a Museum?

 

I don't think it is a personal attack to tell you we believe this to be a forgery.

Some of the people who gave you their opinions are extremely knowledgeable on these coins.

@red_spork is relatively young to the field, but he has been putting together a large collection of Roman Republic coinage (his specialty) and has probably owned, handled, and seen enough of these coins that I would trust his judgment enough to consider a coin suspect if he said there was something wrong with it.

@Ken Dorney is a very experienced ancient coins dealer, so I trust his judgment too.

@John Anthony is probably everyone's favorite forum dealer here (nothing personal, Mr. Dorney), so I also trust his opinion on these.

I am not a dealer, and I do not collect these, but I've seen enough of them on CNG, Agora, and other auction sites that I've become quite familiar with them, despite my lack of interest in them, and even I think the coin is very suspect.

Take it for what it's worth, but that's our honest opinion.

PS: We would love to be proven wrong, but we need better pictures and measurements. I hope that we are wrong and that you indeed have a genuine coin, but based on what we've seen so far, we gave you our honest opinion.

 

That is a mistake I made because I didn't take the time to look up the "real deal" initially because the flan and fabric are wrong and to me. It would worry me less if it were an actual mule and the other characteristics pointed toward authenticity because such things exist.

 

I am an ancient coin dummy but that coin doesn't look bronze to me, it looks silver.

 

$55.00 ?? Proof that P. T. Barnum was right.

 

Well, most of us seem to agree on this one. Seemed at first to be a fantasy, combining types, but the type does exist, Fabius Hadrianus, 102 BC. The OP example does look like it is meant to be silver or at least look like silver, but here are two comparisons of the rare type, clearly not the style of the OP one (and should be around 30mm). BTW, as to it being from an excavation, well, salting of sites is a known trick, especially when someone is trying to sell something.

 

I was a student at the University of Florence working at a dig as part of my history course. I have provided all of the pictures that I am going to along with all the measurements. I no longer have the coin. I sold it. I don't really like ancient coins. They were poorly made. The next oldest coin I have is from Batav India (Dutch East Indies) dated 1808, 5 1/32 of a who knows what. I am going to sell that also because I just don't like it!

 

I didn't buy it, I found it. Why would someone put this in a terracotta piece?

 

They were poorly made?? Considering the tools and methods available two millennia ago, I marvel at the beauty of the product. I'm not a collector, and rarely a dealer of ancient coins, but I do appreciate viewing them.

 

Interesting how you managed this Thread, and how you answered folks. I tried asking good questions to completely give you the benefit of the doubt so that I can further understand your coin. Rather than having argument, or any further problems; I am going to exercise my option of using the IGNORE button in your profile. I question your motives here.

 

Small world => I found one of those cool coin-types too ...

oh, and I actually wrote a thesis paper on it ... but sadly, my dog ate it

... just jokes, Ono-Bac (hey, congrats on finding that sweet example, selling it years ago and then asking what it's worth today) ... hopefully you made a profit

You seem like a lot of fun, my coin-friend ... good luck with this awesome hobby of ours

 

Oh my. I'm glad I missed this thread. BTW, it's fake without any doubt in my mind.

 

It's probably billon (an alloy formerly used for coinage, containing gold or silver with a predominating amount of copper or other base metal).

 

Yes, don't let the edited get you down. [edited]

 

I guess you don't understand simple English. I found it in 1967 and sold it yesterday? edited