Possible 1909-S VDB ????

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  1. Hotrocker

    Hotrocker New Member

    Found this 1909-S but after looking at it more closely it's possibly VDB on the rim? I have terrible eyes and just the camera on my phone.

    What do you think?
     

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  3. coin_analyst

    coin_analyst Member

    Sorry, I don't see anything. Just an 09-S.
     
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  4. Hotrocker

    Hotrocker New Member

    It's definitely there on the bottom rim but on the seam and gapped in the middle of the letters. Just don't know if it's legit....
     
  5. expat

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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I was all set to say "there's no such thing as a 'weak VDB'", but PCGS makes a liar out of me:

    https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/item/1909-s-vdb-1c-bn/2428/-4035033996529851777

    On a coin in this condition, with images this clear, I'd still expect to see the VDB more clearly -- but now my own pareidolia is making it hard to be sure. You'll need to compare to known images, as @expat said. If the position and spacing of V D B are any different from the reference images, it's not real.

    Great images, and welcome to CoinTalk!
     
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  7. Hotrocker

    Hotrocker New Member

    I think it's in position to be mint mark #3. It's just that VDB at on that cut rim I'm confused about....
     

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  8. Hotrocker

    Hotrocker New Member

    I've highlighted what I'm looking at, but once you see it you kind of see it. It's not where you would expect it to be.
     

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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's not the VDB. It would be easy to see with the great image posted.
     
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  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yeah, it would never be down there. I was seeing what looked like a pretty clear but faint "B" above the highlight, but then a "V" to the right of that -- so, yeah, pareidolia. At least for me.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not the VDB coin. If it was it would stand out and you’d know it.
    Welcome to CT.
     
  12. Hotrocker

    Hotrocker New Member

    I guess I must be nuts, I even see the 3 periods/ dots on the outer most edge. It's finned pretty good on the back side and figured it's definitely not normal and definitely an error.

    It's just me Lol!
     
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  13. robec

    robec Junior Member

    That is the wrong reverse for the 1909 SVDB. All SVDB’s have the shallow N in UNITED. This coin has the deep N.

    Shallow
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    Deep

    77CDFD29-5F0A-4264-9377-0DF69783B547.jpeg
     
  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Pareidolia my friend. Welcome to CoinTalk! beavisbutthead.gif
     
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  15. Hotrocker

    Hotrocker New Member

    You're right on the "N"! I didn't consider that.

    Thanks everyone for the welcome and help!
     
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I guess no.
    Wouldn’t you have to see the obverse to make certain.
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    How did I just do that. Is that what quote tag does?
     
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I like photo 4 the best. Crazy question. Does the mint mark position add extra value. I wish everyone had one
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Like your name
     
  20. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Doesn't look like a VDB to me but hey, it is a 1909 S and a pretty nice one at that.
     
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  21. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    That is a feature that I was not aware of. Nice to know.
     
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