Is this a counterfeit morgan?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by goldrealmoney79, Aug 12, 2023.

  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

    This 83CC has the distinctive hit on the reverse eagle breast, indicating a counterfeit. However weight seems to be within range. But toning looks kinda off?
    Is this a counterfeit 83CC?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/225723308802?
     
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  3. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    I believe it's a counterfeit. It looks like they put something under it on the scale to make it weigh more.
     
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  4. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I'm no expert, especially on Morgan varieties, but is there any known variety of 83CC with that dot after the E in ONE? If not, then for sure it is counterfeit.
     
  5. BALD SPARTAN

    BALD SPARTAN Member

    Looks like it to me but that's my opinion. I stay away from raw CC as a practice. I also wouldn't be the Sellers 2nd buyer seeing how he has only one sell on Ebay...
     
  6. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Counterfeit- common wrong CC reverse as others. Does NOT match the known 1883-CC reverses:

    rev.jpg
    VAMS.jpg
     
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  7. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    Aside from all the above reasons, I just don't like the 'coloring" of this coin. It looks artificial like the "coins" you can buy for $2-4 on eBay.
     
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  8. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Big deal on the weight easily manipulated, many counterfeits sold are offered by
    low number sellers on ebay, this guy is no exception with (1) screams counterfeit !!
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2023
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  9. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    The bad coin "screams counterfeit":D...
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I agree! but if a person keeps trying, sooner or later someone maybe will buy it. The photos are not very good, but it does have the fake shine as they don't have a silver veneer to it. Beware, some a little more expensive than $2 look much closer to real.
     
  11. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Listing was removed; here is the obverse:

    obv.jpg
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It doesn’t look like it should.
     
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  13. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    I agree. Oftentimes I can't put my finger on why but just think it doesn't look right, as is the way I feel about this one.
     
  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    That reverse has been popping up a lot lately. The gash in the breast is pretty obvious.
     
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  15. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Compared to a genuine one I agree...
     
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