1969-D Roosevelt Die Clash

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Spark1951, Aug 10, 2023.

  1. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    I found this in a jar almost a year ago, I was re-checking the grades I had assigned and found a die clash I had missed...AU58+...on the bridge of the nose.
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    ...and in front of the bridge of the nose. It can also be seen behind the neck but very hard to see or photograph. I don't see any clashing on the reverse.

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    Here is a close-up:

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    I don't know how to value this. I saw on a post yesterday that @paddyman98 bought one for $15 but I don't think the degree of clashing on this one is worth that much, being only on the obverse. Any advice on value is appreciated...Spark
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Here you go Spark. The overlay. Point out the clash please? Thanks!
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  4. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Almost a full olive leaf on the bridge of Roosevelt’s nose. Thanks for the overlay…Spark
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Nice little clash @Spark1951. A full olive leaf. Aren’t you glad you checked again? :)
     
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  6. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    I do not understand how a clash mark can appear on the nose, when it is an incuse part of the die. Even if the dies clashed the incuse part will not be affected. Can someone explain to me how this occurs?
     
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  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It doesn’t. It’s not a clash.
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I thought clashes were more evident in the fields
     
  9. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    I thought clash marks could only appear in the fields. And I believe I am correct.
     
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  10. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    You are right to be suspicious, but I have seen other examples of Roosevelt clashing in the eye area.

    A strong clash will create the die damage evident in this coin; the area in my close-up is raised. The depth of the area in front of the eye is almost the same as the field area in front of the bridge of the nose. It is less frequent happening inside the designs, but definitely possible…imo…Spark
     
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  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Observe these IMG_6963.jpeg IMG_6964.jpeg IMG_6965.jpeg IMG_6966.jpeg
     
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  12. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Sometimes the clash will show below the ear IMG_6696.jpeg
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Here’s a beautiful clash on this gold coin of mine. I bought it because of the clash.
    Obverse
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    Reverse
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    I turned the coin upside down so the clash shows correctly.
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    The red lines shows the clash at its best places but the entire face of the Indian Head Princess is on the reverse. The clash occurred so strongly that it’s in the field and on the raised areas. The obverse is clashed into the reverse.
    My photos are not the best for this but you can still see it. You should see this beauty in hand. WOW!!
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  14. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Low places aren’t always on the fields
     
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  15. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    OK, so if the incuse part of the die is close to the surface (field level) and a clash is strong enough it can appear on the device as well as the field. That makes sense, thanks everyone.
     
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  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Here is my clash I didn't even see till after I bought and photographed the coin smoothed obv.jpg
     
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