Help Attributing token. A tough one !!

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  1. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    IMG_20160712_093112.jpg IMG_20160712_093226.jpg Here is a token that i need help attributing. Anyone please help.its a tough one and im eager to find out if someone can shed some light on this for me.
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I don't have time. Go to Google and type in 1863 + the words on the reverse or obverse and end with "token." Try it and tell us what it is.
     
  4. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    I can only find copper ones , not this one . Ive tried to look it up and attribute it but to no avail..... Its going to be a toughy but there are lots of great experience here at CT
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Take a hand lens and look for copper coming thru a spot on surface or do a specific gravity test.
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Medal (Civil War Token), 1863, S. STEINFELD PRINCIIPAL DEPOT OF THE FRENCH COGNAC BITTERS, Store Card, Fuld F-630BU-3(either E, F, or J, depending on white metal, silver, or german silver) could not tell you the rarity.

    Simon Steinfeld was a New York City merchant who started advertising himself as the "sole importer and agent" for French Cognac Bitters in 1855. At this point Steinfeld converted his 70 Nassau Street candy and confections store into a saloon. When coins became scarce in 1862, Steinfeld ordered encased postage stamps to make change for his customers. His encasements have a lengthy pitch for French Cognac Bitters: "An unfailing remedy for diseases of the liver and digestive organs."
     
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  7. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Very informative. Thank you . Now I guess its time to try and figure out if its composition is E F or J ....the battle continues. Thanks again so much , I'm one step closer
     
  8. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Ok I may have a R-10 on my hands as there is no white metal tokens listed with this obverse and reverse die combo. This is getting interesting. Anybody else is more than welcome to help I could use all the help I can get at this point
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Then need specific gravity test or metal analysis.
     
  10. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Yes , agreed... But I did match the dies and there is only one token with the 30440/30435 dies and its copper. Which this one is obviously not. .. Any thoughts. how would I gravity test it
     
  11. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Cool die cracks!
     
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  12. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Just spoke with Steve Hayden..it appears that this is a new variety as he put it. A R-10 and looks to be German silver. The mystery has been solved . Thank you guys for everything. its a 630-BU-3j
     
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  13. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    fantastic.
     
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