Let's see your exonumia!

I have vol 1&2 of Atwood in vol 1 they have them listed in a supplemental By Letters, and names. nothing is listed for D.A.T.A. And under the state heading nothing with wording that could be made for the letters on the tokens. Nothing in the token catalog so far either.

 

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OK - here is some suitably exotic paranumismatica for you! Picked up this today at a market - pill box containing 4 medallions in aluminium (which was a rare and expensive commodity in the mid-19th century) depicting Queen Victoria and her family. I suspect it was made in about 1860 - after the birth of Prince Arthur in 1850 and before the death of Prince Albert in 1861.
Interesting?

 

Very interesting @PaddyB ! That ship reverse is very cool and as a set even cooler!

 

... and this also picked up today for you counter-stamped fans. The base coin is a William III farthing from between 1695 and 1701. What the figure on the back is supposed to be I do not know - it might be a peacock's fan or an ornamental axe head - any ideas?

 

I see these on eBay once in awhile, D. I think you did good at $19. There are some that have a number counterstamped on the reverse that replaces the "R.Thies." Most are stamped on both sides with "R.Thies" so the numbered ones seem rarer. I've only seen one or two. Nice pickup,

Bruce

 

That's a tough one, Paddy. Your guess of a peacock feather is as good as any I can think of.

It's possible that the feather, if that's what it is, represents a person's last name. Counterstampers call such a device a rebus, where words or names are represented by either a picture, or a picture/letter combination. For example, if a man's name were James Cannon, he might stamp his coins with a letter "J" followed by a stamped image of a cannon. Just a clever way of representing himself, I suppose.

Your issuer might be named Peacock or Feather then. Just a wild guess, but that's the best I can come up with. Looks like the date of your coin is 1696, as I see a "6" underneath and to the right of the counterstamp.

One more thing I noticed on the obverse is what looks to be a small leaf? stamped over the face. It may just be damage, but you could get a better read on that than I can. Also, in the area where the ear would be shows a very faint saw-toothed mark, similar to what you might see in a craftsman's makers stamp. The very edge of a depression with the raised letters of a name or initial. I don't see any letters, but they may be worn off.

I'm probably reading too much into this coin, but if you could take a second look at it under high magnification, I'd appreciate it. You never know. Thanks, Paddy

Bruce

 

That's a little treasure, Paddy. You come across some very interesting things in your travels.

Bruce

 

Yes - I like it but I am finding it difficult to get more info on it. I have tried searching on "Victoria Medal Box" and "Victoria Medal Pill box" but got nothing similar. Anyone seen this elsewhere?

 

Here you go Paddy https://www.coins-auctioned.com/auctions/rare-circa-1850-medallion-box-three-coins-unc-co-853-5131

 

Could it be a scallop/clamshell maybe?

 

Saint Patrick's school there was on in Catskill New York and 9 NYC , 1Denver also one very common name for Catholic schools.
Nuns at my St Patrick's school used brass rulers on your hands if you acted out at All.

 

They were standard issue to each nun when they graduated nun school!

 

After being outbid at auction (twice!) for one of these large Pius IX medals, I finally bit the bullet and bought this example from a UK dealer.

The cleaned up case shows lettering I can't decipher.

 

@yarm you never fail to post some amazing medals! That one is gorgeous. How big is it?

 

That's brilliant - thanks!

Good news: They want USD 250 for it and that is with one coin missing.

Bad news - nobody has bid - not even watching and it finishes tonight. :-(

 

Could well be! I still can't work out what it is about though. If it is countermarking, it was done a long time ago. To make a counter-mark so complex and strong (It would take a great deal of energy to emboss that into an existing coin and possibly involve heating the metal) suggests a large organisation or government. I have trawled through Krause in case it was some early British colony, but not turned up anything yet.

Anyone with any other thoughts?

 

Pius IX medal - How big is it?

82mm, 270gms

 

Phew! Real winner there yarm!