Let's see your exonumia!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Very nice, Paddy, but as you say, sad that these types of things don't always remain with loved ones. I've thought of this is regard to privately made dog tags worn by some soldiers in the American Civil War. I have two counterstamped pieces, one I'm certain was used as identification by a soldier from Hew Hampshire, and the second a holed coin from an artilleryman from Vermont.

    Our government didn't issue dog tags regularly until WWi, so men from earlier wars sometimes used various forms of body identification. There was a great fear that they would fall in battle and never be identified. Sadly, nearly half of all military burials were of men unknown. When you come into possession of these types of things, it makes you wonder what happened to the soldier and why this memento of him is no longer with his family.

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  3. Circus

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    "sometimes because the current generation puts little store by the sacrifices of our forebears.":(
    Seems the young uns in both our countries have forgotten the lessons that history teaches. And that you can't always just get along with some groups.
     
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  4. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Yes - I have seen many of these mementos that should have remained with the family but have moved on.

    One I remember particularly was a Transportation token I found around 15 years ago. It was in the form of a 1797 Cartwheel Penny, ground flat and then hand engraved on both sides with a poem. I no longer have the exact words as I sold it to Australia many years ago, but the gist was: "When you see this remember me even though I am 1000s of miles away and can never come back to you". It was named and dated for about 1830. This was a typical tradition for someone to leave behind when they had been sentenced to "Transportation to the Colonies".

    My county - Dorset - is particularly linked to this as many of the ships left from Portland harbour near Weymouth. There is a signpost on the road to Weymouth near Bere Regis which is traditionally the point at which any accompanying family had to make their final farewells before returning to London.

    Interestingly there are also a number of so called "Transportation Bridges" in the County - notably at Sturminster Newton - which have cast iron signs on them threatening transportation for any vandalism to the bridge.

    What a different world!
     
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  5. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Yes - and they even don't learn from the teachings of our greatest thinkers. "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." (I hoped to say I was quoting with that but a quick search on the net opens up a great debate as to whether George Santayana has the credit, or Winston Churchill, or someone else!)
     
  6. thedredge

    thedredge Active Member

    Another love token and then one of my favorites that has not led me in the right direction when used. Lol
     

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  7. Smittys

    Smittys Member

    Does this count?

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  8. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Yes! Times 10 :)
     
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  9. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Hi all, check out this medal. This portrait, reminds me of the lady on the Morgan dollar.I tried to research it. But not much info available. It,s 36mm by Wyon. It caught my eye because I never forget a face...is it the same lady? royalacadamymedal obv.jpg royalacadamymedal rev.jpg
     
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  10. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Stamp collectors beat us.
    The (very strong) likeness of Anna Williams and the Morgan dollar obverse is also on a 2cent/3cent trial proof stamp made by the American Banknote company and supposedly copyrighted in 1867.
     
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  11. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Pretty excited here. I have done more research. Revealing some interesting things. George T Morgan, worked for Joseph Wyon and his brother in England, before coming to America. I have a link for you to see. Also an interesting letter found in Morgan's estate. I'm quite convinced this medal is the TRUE face of the Morgan dollar... what do you think? I think its pretty convincing evidence personally... here's the links http://uspatterns.com/anwilsildolg.html
     
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  12. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_T._Morgan
     
  13. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Where did the image in the article come from? It looks like a vignette that you would see on banknote, or check?
     
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  14. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    No Clue as to the origin of the image .Sounds right to me though. It does look like a vignette. But this medal, resembles the Morgan dollar portrait closer, don't you think. Food for thought... :D
     
  15. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Yes the chin on your medal resembles the Morgan more than the vignette. But the lips on the vignette look pretty close to the Morgan. And the nose looks pretty close on all of them.

    Honestly, I'd bet the vignette was, as was the stamp, the work of the American Banknote company and Morgan applied an overly ambitious interpretation of the First Amendment. :p

    Brenner tried to do the same thing when he first summited the French Sower design to replace the IHC. Fortunately, they told him to get a life.
     
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  16. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    BTW, it's a beautiful medal regardless of who modeled it. :)
     
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    2 of 4 Newark Health bus passes has registration number on reverse plastic
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  18. Diplodocus

    Diplodocus Active Member

    Just recently I acquired a second example of an "R. THIES" counterstamped quarter. This appears on U.S. quarters from the 1970s and '80s; the latest date I've seen pictured online was a 1986 quarter. Both @JBK and @BRandM have posted some additional info about this counterstamp in other threads.

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    Purchased this 1984 D (my birth year) from an ebay seller who had miscategorized it under some kind of art category. Paid $19 which didn't feel bad; last example I am aware of having sold on Ebay went for $45 last November. Finding my first one (a 1982 d) in circulation is what got me hooked on counterstamps!

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  19. Circus

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    No luck so far in finding were these are from. Since the search engines read it as Data
     
  20. Circus

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    The Masonic art bar, blank reverse

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  21. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Could they be Atwood like Denver Area Transportation Authority or something?
     
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