1967 Dime DDR

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  1. KrazyKlown

    KrazyKlown New Member

    Hello, I'm here seeking advice from you knowledgeable individuals regarding what seems to be some doubling on this dime. The coin is in poor condition, making it difficult to see clearly, and I understand that its value may be diminished due to its condition. However, it would be enjoyable to add it to my collection if it turns out to be an error. I eagerly await your insights. Have a fantastic day! 356991022_2504981336336598_7730005142583661437_n.jpg 357278622_623565753083571_121452228300028206_n.jpg WIN_20230713_23_27_15_Pro-1.jpg WIN_20230713_23_27_39_Pro 1.jpg WIN_20230713_23_30_09_Pro.jpg WIN_20230713_23_30_30_Pro.jpg WIN_20230713_23_31_05_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    Flat and shelf like… it’s machine doubling. Could also be coming from an over used die. That orange peel effect in the fields is a good indicator for that.

    mine thing I’ve learned to look for with doubling is the thickness of the letters and numbers involved. If the devices are the normal size it’s probably not a doubled due. Combine that with the way the devices look with the doubling on that dime and it’s even less likely. If the devices are thicker you may have something worth investigating.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That is my thought.
    Die Deterioration doubling. Worthless doubling.

    Not a Doubled die variety.
     
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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  6. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Appears the flat and shelflike look is present on many letters, and uniformly so, that makes me go with MD.

    The coin looks to have shifted during the strike as opposed to a worn die where the edges of the letters have deteriorated.

    There are all three present: MD, die deterioration and 56 years of wear.

    It is in better condition than most still in circulation, my guess on a grade would be AU50-53 at best. IMO…Spark
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Sorry, that's not one of these...
     

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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Minted from a worn die and then circulated for over 50 years. Only worth face value. Welcome to CT.
     
  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I’m with the field here. MD and DD.
     
  10. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    UPDATE: NumisMedia/FMV currently lists XF40=.26, AU50=.29 and AU53=.31 cents each in USD.

    I included XF40 because I’m certain one of the TPGs out there would grade it as such…imo…Spark
     
  11. KrazyKlown

    KrazyKlown New Member

    Well that's still higher than I would have believed to be.

    Thank you and thanks to all that replied. This info is an eye opener. I see that most of info I get just talk about the errors and talk nothing about machine doubling or Die Deterioration doubling.

    Well I'm just gonna label this one as a cubic zirconia coin. With my luck it would be easier to make a set of these than it would be for me to find a real DD:cool:.
     
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  12. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    @KrazyKlown just remember you can’t find one if you’re not looking. If you’re really interested in collecting errors learn the minting process. Listen to those with experience, and keep your eyes peeled. Errors are rare things, what fun would they be if they weren’t?
     
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  13. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Go to John Wexlers website: doubleddie.com. Read all the sections, especially about “Worthless Doubling”. There and in other sections are info on machine doubling and die deterioration.

    To increase your chances of finding your first doubled die, get yourself a roll or two of 2006 Philadelphia LMC. Wexler lists 52 DDO, and 82 DDR for 2006. Remember that DDO/DDR is termed a “variety” because hundreds, if not thousands of coins were made from each doubled die.

    This is not the only year with tons of varieties per year. Research to find other years too, and enhance your percentage for success. Good Luck!
    …imo…Spark
     
  14. KrazyKlown

    KrazyKlown New Member

    "Thank you, this is a valuable resource. I've bookmarked it for future reference. Recently, I acquired 20 rolls of pennies, 5 rolls of dimes, and 5 rolls of quarters with the intention of conducting a coin hunt. To streamline the process, I designed and 3D printed an organizing/sorting system. Initially, I found myself looking up each coin individually as I removed them, but that became tedious due to the constant back and forth.

    Lastly, I have a quick question to ask, as I don't want to overextend your time. Could this be considered a die cud error?"

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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

  16. KrazyKlown

    KrazyKlown New Member

    I stand corrected, wrong terminology. Die chip not cud.
     
  17. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Yeah, if it is connected to the rim the die break is called a cud. Internally, meaning not connected, it is termed “Interior Die Break” or IDB. All us old jokers called them die chips for forever, but the modern usage is IDB.

    When I get a batch of coins I want to work on I first sort them on a tray lined with a soft dish towel, sorted from earliest to latest, one denomination at a time. I call it a “project” and strive to work on only one project at a time. Then you just crank out each year and mint mark accordingly, using your favorite source; I use both Variety Vista and Wexler.

    It really does help to be organized and the more you do the better you get…
    …imo…Spark
     
  18. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Finding DDR/DDO specimens isn’t difficult. Finding quality specimens are and desirable specimens are even harder. The thing is to take pleasure in the smaller finds along the way. The hunt is what inspires. The prizes are an added benefit.
     
  19. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    In post #12…correction: 56 ddo and 82 ddr.

    I have been examining coins set aside for my younger son Douglas and found some that I had not checked for doubling varieties. 13 2006 Philly LMC, some of the earlier coins I organized about 12 years ago when I retired from Gov. service.

    I found 2 DDR: WDDR-011 and WDDR-062. I will post them soon.

    My point is that you can find them. These slipped through my original purview because I was looking for different criteria back then, looking for low mintage and not focusing on varieties. I admit this was a mistake, but I now have a completely different process in place…Spark
     
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