Tried to conserve a Seated Half Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Jun 6, 2016.

  1. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    You are right. I did not pick up on the "dip" phase being EZEST. And I could not figure why you would water down the acetone. :meh:

    It all makes sense now!
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Organic crud on the coin can hide the luster sometimes.
     
  4. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    The original coin wasn't the prettiest thing in the world, but it was original.
    The coin, when dipped, seemed to uncover more design and may have upped the grade. Not original skin, but if it's dipped just this once and then stored properly, it'll turn out fine.
    Don't know which one I prefer.
     
  5. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I'm Interested in the result.
     
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Emphasis on the "stored properly," because stripping the surfaces is the numismatic equivalent of suppressing the human immune system to treat a disease - the surface of a stripped coin is as susceptible to picking up new corrosion as the day it was struck, possibly even more so because it lacks any Mint treatment to prevent it.
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Grading should be done soon. Probably sometime next week. Results coming soon. I'm betting AU53.
     
  8. World Colonial

    World Colonial Active Member


    My opinion also.
     
  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I had no idea there were customers for nearly black and yellowing coins! I've found 2 here! But... to each his own. Personally, the look of the original coin was akin to a rotten banana.
     
  10. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    You should have sent the coin before Cleaning it by your own, either to NGC or PCGS for professional conservation Service imo.
    I' m not sure it will come back straight graded.
     
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  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Best advice above. Leave it to the professionals and they most likely would have straight graded. Nevertheless, you did a great job. The coin is hairlined though but it does not look cleaned. NCS would have removed the tiny black spots. The plus for you leaving them on is the grader may think the coin was not dipped.
     
  12. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    CBD, as you might have noticed on this thread, longtime well-educated numismatists are going to want a coin left in its original state with crusty toning intact... ;-) and they are going to want it at a fair price because they know the market inside and out.

    But the bidders who make the price go up, up, up way higher than it should be at an auction are not the longtime well-educated numismatists...and they strongly prefer a white-ish coin with shiny frosty looking fields.
     
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I like crusty, but not this coin's type of crusty. I'm a numismatist, but I prefer the look of my conservation. (But I am biased).
     
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  14. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    That was said with a bit of a wink and a nod. You made the coin more desirable to a wider audience.....which will help it in the long run.
    I think the post conservation photos look "flashy" too, a re-shoot might let us see another side to it... when it comes back of course.
     
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  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Who knows.... it may not grade.
     
  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It got an AU55! (But I'm more excited about the 1925-D Mercury Dime that graded MS62 FB... that's a $1k coin.
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  17. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    Hah! likely doubled your money?
     
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  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'll be darned.
     
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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I just got around to reading this thread today.

    I suspect you have seen thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, of dipped coins and never even realized they had been dipped and found them perfectly acceptable, some maybe even exceptional. I also suspect you own a good many coins that have been dipped.

    Of course, the above is usually true of just about everybody else as well.

    I agree with this 100%.

    But this ? It sounds like you are suggesting that coins are given some kind of mint treatment to prevent toning. But that is categorically false.

    The only coins that I am aware that have ever, stress ever, been given any mint treatment in an effort to prevent toning are the Sackys and other modern $1 coins made of the same alloy as the Sackys.
     
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  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I do not know enough about the mint planchet preparation program to be aware of whether they strive (or ever did) for a "perfectly clean" planchet or add a little surface anticorrosive of one sort or another. It just makes sense that they would/should. That's why I used the term "possibly." If you have greater knowledge, I'm happy to learn.
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well they do have a oil film on them that your freshly dipped/stripped coin doesn't.
     
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