This got be a fake NGC label/slab?

Agree. My thought is possibly a hijacked account based on the past sold listings having only sold 2 coins in the last year and rather inexpensive compared to this one. On the other hand it could be a collector in need of money or moving a duplicate.

 

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IMO, it is absolutely the same one. The differences come from the 2 angles on the shot and entirely different lighting.

 

Ok. I defer to experience and knowledge ;-)

It amazes me how different a coin can look with different photographing tactics.

 

So how does the label change after NGC scanned it for the picture on their site?

 

2 examples of the same coin;

 

I thought "hijack" first, and noted he's been buying fairly consistently, so no period of inactivity which is the normal hallmark of a hijack. Nobody would hijack an account seeing regular use even if they had the password. I just don't get the label, though. They're one piece, so only a severe misprint - and I'm sure it's entries in a template, not individually typeset - could explain it.

 

To me it looks like somehow the number part of the label has been photoshopped, but the coin looks the same to me.

 

I agree with you it appears to be the same coin to me as well. Just different lighting and angles but I think it's the same.

 

The coin seems fine based on a comparison with the NGC photo, but the label has definitely been edited (see circled part below). Maybe it was in someone's registry set and they didn't want to reveal the cert number?

NGC Photo:


Ebay photo:

 

Maybe the guy hid the number intentionally? For what reason I know not.

 

Well, as Dougmeister proved on the previous page, hiding the cert number does little good when you don't alter the barcode because scanning it gives you the cert number....

 

I've seen a VERY expensive proof gold on ebay where he clacked the number and bar code out... for whatever reason. People are weird sometimes.

 

In the clarinet, and alas other musical instrument worlds, seller will often photoshop out the serial number or state the first 2 numbers and then xxx (aka 78xxxx).
Why? NOBODY KNOWS. What possible harm would it cause to clearly show/state the serial number/cert number on anything?
Only reason is if the item is stolen and seller hopes that the real owner isn't actively searching for their thing.

 

There are situations where people use it for detrimental reasons. i.e. report it stolen and attempt to recover it for free.

People do this on firearms as well as license plates on cars.

 

Please have a closer look on ebay Germany....there is something rotten.

Item number 232003337351

 

Is it just me or is that number invalid?

 

I' ve checked the number, it' s OK..
It's the same coin in another NGC holder, just curious.
Ebay.de

 

Here's a thought...

MAYBE he's being proactive... if someone out there gets a valid serial number, it gives them a little more information to make their counterfeits look a little more legitimate?

(Or maybe he's just a member here with too much time on his hands and wanted to see how many posts this topic would get!)

 

You yourself proved nobody needs to see the number to get the number....

SMH

 

Yeah, but he might not have realized that.