Need help with a French brothel

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Joe Campbell, Jun 26, 2023.

  1. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    A French brothel token, not a French brothel. Sorry for the confusion.

    I pulled this out of the world junk bucket yesterday. Pretty sure it’s a French brothel token. I can translate the wording but still don’t know much about it.

    Does anyone have a resource that could show date and/or location of issue? Any additional info is appreciated. Either way pretty happy considering I paid 3 cents for it.

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Holy Cow!! You paid 3 cents for an average sales price token valued at $110? That's incredible!!
    I'm not French but the words appear to say " For your entrance to paradise" (sounds enticing :shame:). On the other side it appears to say " Secure Discretion".
    Nice TOKEN! I hope I'm right on the translation. :sour:
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I was gonna say that this sounded more like a "talk to your doctor" moment. ;)

    Nice pick! I'm not a fan of the "brothel tokens" made as novelties, but this one has some class.
     
  5. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    No cash value
     
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  6. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    I read the thread title and thought you might be planning a trip to France. This isn't the kind of thing you can find on TripAdvisor, I assume.
    However, I see it is not to be. Cool token.
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If they all look like the woman on the token, I think I’ll pass.
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Find me another woman from the same era who looks better today.
     
  9. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Cap D'ail is a commune in France. Numista has a similar token listed for Argentina. My bet is this token is from around the same time period.
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’m glad you clarified you thread title as I was beginning to wonder.
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Best to remain clean and pure and clueless.......... devil.gif
     
  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    What era was that? I can find many women from the 20th and 21st centuries that look better. We can go back to Lillian Gish.
     
  13. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    Other than the goatee I thinks she’s hot.
     
  14. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    One time I wish CT had emojis. I died laughing
     
  15. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    This style of shell cards was popular in France from just after 1871 (the Franco Prussian war) to just after ww2 (when the Code Napoleon & official tolerance of Maison Close ["closed houses" with dedicated prostitutes] came to an end due to its association with Vichy collaboration during the occupation). The Belle Époque was their heyday.

    I have a small collection. This one is in better condition than most - they tend to degrade quickly with any chemical exposure or damage that pierces the shell.

    It's strongly suspected that these lacked a denomination because they were used as Brass Checks. That is, they acted as chits or counters where a patron could truthfully say they had never paid for sex (and the Madame could extract whatever degree of markup she wished). If you bought one for 20 Francs & it was later redeemed for 10 Francs, the house was keeping 50% of the transaction (or 100% if you never spent it). Neither the John nor the Courtesan ever knew how much friction was involved in that way.

    They may also have been more prosaic advertising pieces - anecdotal evidence suggests perhaps some of these tokens were good at the brothel's bar for a drink. My suspicion is that the more common type were used in that way, while the rarer types were redeemable as Brass Checks.

    No less of a contemporary "expert" than Upton Sinclair writes about the widespread use and understanding of Brass Checks in the sindustry:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brass_Check

    However, only one American token is acknowledged by Rulau as serving the function in his US Tokens 1700-1900. I've got it slabbed (one of only 3 known, if memory serves). Anyone know the token I'm referring to?
     
  16. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Interesting. I've heard this being done with pub checks as well.
    I don't know the token you are referring to, but I would love to see it!
     
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  17. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    M-NY-625

    The only acknowledged US brothel token in the Rulau catalog (unless I missed others):
     

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