1982 penny copper PMD or die deterioration

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Laurie B, Jun 20, 2023.

  1. Laurie B

    Laurie B Well-Known Member

    Hi all going through my 1982 copper pennies and came across this. The reverse and obverse pictures are not the best but the others ones are. I took those my coin scope and then I took a picture with my phone. The scope does not show the whole coin on the screen. I hope these pictures are better than my usual. On the reverse I was wondering if this PMD or die deterioration, it would make good example to keep and learn from. Thanks for any help. 1982 penny 2.jpg 1982 penny 3.jpg 1982 penny 3.jpg 1982 penny 4.jpg 1982 penny 5.jpg 1982 penny obv.jpg 1982 penny reverse 2.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  4. Laurie B

    Laurie B Well-Known Member

    Was the pictures that bad? I know the obv and rev are but the single should be good.
     
  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Like most of the "coin" microscopes for sale, the upright support is too short to get a full coin image, they are fine for close ups of relevant areas. But, taking a picture of the microscope screen creates distortion and pixellation. You should be able to save the image to your computer. Todays mobile phone cameras are very good, you can adjust the ISO, white balance etc. Support it on a coffee mug, adjust the lighting sources around the coin, get as much focus without zooming as you can, set the timer for 2 seconds to avoid camera shake and there you have it.There is no "one way" to shoot all as every coin has different colours, surface condition and reflectivity. JMHO.
    Your coin has a bit of die deterioration coupled with strike doubling where the die jumped or vibrated as it struck the planchet. The narrowing of the devices shows this.
     
  6. Laurie B

    Laurie B Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for the info. I wish that the scopes would take the whole picture. It gets confusing between MD and die deterioration doubling. That why I come here and ask you guys. I will keep this for a sample of this type. Have a great day and thanks.
     
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  7. Laurie B

    Laurie B Well-Known Member

    I just now noticed I put PMD instead of MD you probably thought I was going loco, some days I feel like I am. Thanks have a great day.
     
  8. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Look around hardware shops etc. for a longer upright you can use.
     
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  9. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

     
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  10. Laurie B

    Laurie B Well-Known Member

    My son was helping me try that months ago with what we had at home. I will have to take measurements and go to the hardware store. Then I could take full size pictures.:)
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Either a worn die or MD. Judging by the rest of the coin I would say a worn die.
     
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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Looks more like MD ( loose die or some similar sliding movement to me, but in the same grouping.
     
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  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll go with MD.
     
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  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    A whole lot of nothing. But very interesting. I would just be so happy seeing a coin like that. Good learning tool
     
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  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ya put any coin under a microscope and you're gonna see stuff......
     
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  16. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I took my microscope to ACE Hardware and they found me a long, threaded bolt that fit perfectly. I was then able to get far enough away from the coin to get the whole coin in the picture.
     
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  17. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I've tried using my computer to scan coins and they come out lousy and I have used our "Jack of all trade" to take pictures and they too, come out bad. I'm really just a coin collector and do not like taking pictures. I thoroughly enjoy the pictures that are posted on Cointalk, but I will never be able to get pictures that are shown on board. Thanks to you all for the pictures that you take and show us.
     
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