Let's see your exonumia!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    I think you are correct. So does the owner of the LCS were they appear in his order of assorted rounds and bars. Since there were 10 or 12 in the order I would have to say they are trying to get mileage out of the die sets. and build a demand for slow moving subject rounds/bars.
    I'm not a sports person and don't know, but I have to say that I don't think the Sanders round would have a large demand factor. I also would believe that most of the bars and rounds are minted on slow speed presses. So error would be almost non issues. Besides all of them that the LCS had were very nicely orientated like the one in my photo.
     
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  3. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Here's two examples of another Irish political stamp I picked up a couple of years ago. I've documented over 20 of these in my census, so they seem somewhat common. Since this is a Nationalist issue, all are stamped on British coins, and struck across the portrait of the Queen with the intent of defacing her. Although there are some Nationalist issues applied to Irish coins, they're quite scarce. Every RIRA stamp I've seen has the same characteristic large letter style punch struck heavily on the coin. This suggests a small number of issuers, possibly only a single one.

    RIRA stands for the Real Irish Republican Army, and was formed from dissident members of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) in 1997 over their participation in the ongoing peace talks with the British government and most Loyalist factions in Northern Ireland. RIRA members refused to negotiate, unlike Sinn Fein, the political wing of the IRA.

    RIRA quickly made its presence felt by staging a bomb attack in Omagh that killed 29 civilians in the cities shopping district. The heinous act, purposely targeting civilians, was condemned by nearly everone, including the IRA itself. The organization is credited with many other attacks, but the Omagh bombing was the worst.

    In 2012 RIRA joined forces with RAAD (Republican Action Against Drugs) and several other smaller Nationalist groups and formed a group sometimes called the New Irish Republican Army. To my knowledge, it's the only paramilitary still engaged in armed conflict, though on a much smaller scale then previously seen. They also have a political wing known as the 32 County Sovereignty Movement.

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  4. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Ha! You just identified one of my "Mystery pieces" for me :) Awesome lol. I'll be posting some stuff here later this evening.
     
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  5. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Here's my masonic penny - I absolutely COULD NOT figure it out before I saw that post lol. IMG_4937.JPG IMG_4938.JPG
     
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  6. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Here's some more stuff. I'm going to post pictures of everything in my "not a coin" bag :p

    This is a sterling silver token. It has an ugly little discoloration on one edge, even though it was never opened up.
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    Unopened - unsure what this is (other than what it says), but pretty sure it's not pres. dollars. Only comes with 5 of them, but there are a lot more than 5 slots in the included folder. IMG_4854.JPG IMG_4855.JPG

    A couple pages ago, someone posted one of the tokens from this set. I came across the whole set, plus a second partial set, plus a third, empty display board. When I got it, it came with the book and the original envelope someone won it in. At the bottom, the reverse sides are shown. IMG_4856.JPG IMG_4857.JPG IMG_4858.JPG IMG_4859.JPG
     
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  7. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Here's the rest of the items from my "not a coin" bag. Some are tokens, some medallions, and some are just plain confusing lol. There's even a button - I kept it because of the stuff etched/stamped in the back of it.

    1 probable repro coin, 2 medallions (1 sterling silver), and 2... I do not know what. They are thick and heavy, though.
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    2 promo tokens I "won" at otakon a few years ago, the button I mentioned (including a close up of the stamps on the back), and some carved stone medallion thing. IMG_4878.JPG IMG_4879.JPG IMG_4880.JPG

    This slug simply says "steel city", but I like it :p the second thing I'm not exactly sure what it is - maybe a token, maybe a repro coin. The third is weird (to me) - picked it up at a coin shop in the obligatory "5-for-$1" bucket :p A sales tax receipt in token form? IMG_4881.JPG IMG_4882.JPG

    And here is a variety of parking tokens, arcade tokens, and similar that I've held onto for no real reason except I like them :) IMG_4883.JPG IMG_4884.JPG
     

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  8. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    My final few items - some transit tokens and some miniature 1-gram silver bars I had to grab because of the designs :)

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  9. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    A couple more that are making money with silver on the rise.


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  10. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Like the "Big Cat" silver bar, Circus.:D

    Bruce
     
  11. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    Currently have 4 house kitties, fostering 4 kittens, have 6 ferals that come by and get meals, water and a safe place to hang out in the yard, 2 are fixed momma is going in this week as she is still in the shop. and the other 3 as I can trap them they are going in to.
     
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  14. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

  15. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I assume these count as Exonumia/Paranumismatica as they are coin shaped and were never intended for circulation.

    Royal Mint Trial Two Pound coins from the UK. Between 1986 and 1995 the UK issued a number of Commemorative Two pound coins as collectables. These were single metal coins celebrating things like the Commonwealth Games and the foundation of the Bank of England.

    In 1994 the decision was made to issue a Two pound coin for circulation and there was debate within the Royal Mint as to whether to go for the existing style or a new bi-metallic version. Two trial coins were struck as shown below and tests were carried out using these - primarily to ascertain whether the vending machine people could work accurately with them.

    The decision was made to go with the bi-metallic version and to promote the new coins the Royal Mint produced a presentation pack (illustrated). These cost about GBP 20 at the time and now sell for GBP 100 to GBP 150.

    A very small number of the old style mono-metallic version got out and these now sell for around GBP 1000.

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    I hope they are interesting to you all!
     
  16. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    That's very interesting, Paddy. I love the ship reverse as well as the Queen's portrait. Do you know off hand what ship was used as a model, or is it a generic rendition. Also, do you know the name /s of the engraver?
    Thanks

    Bruce
     
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  18. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    The engraver for the head is well known as Raphael Maklouf - the same as the head on many British coins around that time. I have not been able to find out anything about the ship - either its name or its engraver! This page on Wikipedia gives quite a bit more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_pounds_(British_coin)

    I have a detailed document from the Royal Mint titled "The United Kingdom Coinage Review 1994" which explains the process of the review for all the coins conducted at that time. Even this does not give any more info on the designer of the ship reverse. (I could scan and upload this document but it is many pages long and so not really suited to putting on here.)

    I also have a later document from the Royal Mint dated 1997 confirming the decision on the choice of the new two pound and 50p coins and the process for replacement. This gives the designer of the new "Technology" reverse to the two pound coin (Bruce Rushin a Norfolk art teacher) but still gives no more info on the ship.

    The package for the bi-metallic coin also does not name the designer but does state: "The sailing ship reverse design, used when work began on the trial piece in 1994, will not be repeated on the two-pound coin entering circulation in 1997."

    I hope that helps!
     
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  19. yarm

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  20. ExoMan

    ExoMan Well-Known Member

    That's a beauty, Yarm. The lady aside, what caught my eye was the antiquary chest. I have one that's quite similar. It is made of inlaid walnut with folding, brass handles and a key lock door. It measures around 13"x13"x16". There are thirteen drawers, most of which are of uniformly shallow depth. Every drawer has a pull and a glass lid that lifts. There are inserts that are suited to English coins, various sizes. I have removed those, along with the round, leather "pillows" upon which coins were placed. It appears to have been made in the 1860's or thereabouts. I bought it from an elderly collector over forty years ago and despite having visited many hundreds of antique shops in my time, I have yet to see a similar chest but for the one on your token, Yarm.
     
  21. yarm

    yarm Junior Member Supporter

    The depiction of an antiquary chest on John Henry's private token was not unprecedented. Notice the similarity to this Benjamin Nightingale token of 1843.

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    The inspiration for these tokens might have been Pye's 1797 halfpenny (Warwickshire 223) of a similar design.

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