A 1799 Bust Dollar for $15 ... in the 1940s

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  1. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I bought this 1799 dollar from a veteran collector in the mid 1980s. At the time he sold it to me, he indicated that he had paid $15 for it in the 1940s.

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    Consulting my Red Books from the 1940s, I found that the retail price for this variety (7 obverse stars left, 6 right) of 1799 dollar was consistently $17.50 in VF until 1950 (4th edition of the Red Book) when it went up to $40. In those days, this coin would have graded EF, so it appears that he got quite a bargain.

    This leads to another observation about how grading has changed over the decades. In the 1980s, I graded this piece EF-45. Not surprisingly the collector graded it AU. We decided to let ANACS decide. This was before PCGS existed. ANACS sent it back in one of their "old time, bar soap" holders as an EF-45.

    In the early 2000s I saw that the grading standards had changed. I cracked it out of the ANACS holder and sent it to NGC. They gave it an AU-55.

    So, what do you think?
     
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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Nice coin deserving of the AU-55 grade. Thanks for sharing. By the way, enjoyed the story behind it.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Really nice. AU-55 looks right but maybe 58 now.
     
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  5. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    It's great that it's only had two owners for 80 years. Lovely coin regardless of grade.
     
  6. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, it has better overall eye appeal than an 1802 dollar I have in PCGS AU-58.

    In person, this coin has multiple coins, which includes blue and gold. It's hard to capture with a photograph. Here is another look at the obverse.

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  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Beautiful coin. Pretty much out of my league so don't spend much time looking at these, but if this was a GTG, I might have been in the AU50-53 range based on what I can make out in remaining luster quality.
     
  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The coin has a great deal of luster which I can’t capture in a photo.
     
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  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Gets better with age I guess
     
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  10. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    I’m waiting for that to be true for me… I’m aging like milk… lol

    that’s a pretty amazing coin and I love that it’s changed hands so infrequently. Coins like that one deserve a home.
     
  11. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Cheese is delicious.
     
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  12. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    don’t disparage honest hard working cheese by comparing it to me…
     
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  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is more fact about the coin. This collector sold it to me to help finance a trip he and his wife were taking to Bermuda.
     
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  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Beautiful coin with original surfaces. No matter the assigned grade or value, it‘s a keeper!
     
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  15. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's as nice as the one I picked up for $776 not too long ago, but I might consider a trade ;) Maybe someday I'll have one as nice, I'm just very happy to have one at all, to be honest, even if a bear swiped at it while it was being nailed to the bar (that's the imaginary history I've made up). Your collection is a constant source of inspiration, interesting history and beautiful pictures, thank you for posting!


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  16. daniel a DiBiasio

    daniel a DiBiasio Well-Known Member

    It's so cool to hold something from the 20210918_140334 (1).jpg 20210918_140352 (1).jpg late 1700s
     
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  17. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    This is an experience I made buying a Bust dollar a long time go.

    In the early 80s my company sent me to visit our parent company in the US, in Michigan. While I was there I visited a local coin show held in a shopping mall. There were not many coins that interested me, but there was one dealer who had some of the older coins that I was looking for. I noticed he had this early dollar which I ended up buying it.

    Too eager, too young, bit naive maybe. I paid $275, a large amount for me at the time. I still have it and look at it every now and then as an example of what NOT to do in Numismatics.

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