What Are Your Coin & Coin Collecting Pet Peeves?

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  1. calcol

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  3. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    It's all relative and I get what you're saying but I haven't encountered an issue with it yet. Even in conversation I think that "world coins" will be understood in context. Anyway, on sites like eBay, world coins will always refer to non-domestic country coins. So, the US eBay site will have world coins as non-US (and non-Canada) coins. Whereas IIRC, the Italian eBay site ending with ".it" instead of ".com" will have world coins as non-Italian coins.

    Maybe some folks on CT not from the US are bothered by that phrase (?). I'm not sure what else to call it though - "non-domestic coins"?
     
  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I think he means collecting by the country/countries names themselves... it makes sense. to each their own way of doing it/calling it.
     
  5. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Oh lol, it must be getting late for me.
     
  6. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    As far as I know, when I search world coins, United States AND Canadian coins don't show up. It's weird. Both of these countries have to be selected separately or everything all together under one umbrella (like all coins or something).
     
  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I think it's a continent thing
     
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  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    1 cleaned coins in straight grade slabs
    2 off brand slabs that people think the coins are worth abd are graded the same as the big 2 or even the second 2
    3 modern coins. Especially first strike first issue etc. overpriced bullion is all they are in my opinion and modern circulating coins are beyond ugly
    4 non silver or gold coins and by that I don't mean early copper either I mean clad crap
    5 extreme arrogance by both some collectors and some dealers. I try to avoid both
    6 overpriced overrated 20th c keys. I have zero desire to own a s-vdb
    7 no funds when something I want comes up and no coins I like when I have plenty of money
     
  9. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Hmm , let's see ... what did the member who made the initial post here write somewhere? Ah yes, "non-US". Sounds good to me. Oh wait, that member was you. :D For the purpose of Coin Talk, "US", "Ancients" and "Others" maybe.

    In my opinion this is not a terribly big issue though. Here in Germany the terms have always been a little more complex, with "world" coins being pieces from outside the German countries (or maybe German language countries), and these days coins from non-euro countries. There is no precise definition anyway.

    Side note: When I got my first Schön "Weltmünzkatalog" (World Coin Catalog), it made sense to me that it would cover every country in this world. Later I saw the Krause "Standard Catalog of World Coins" - and was surprised to see US coins in there ...

    Another terminology pet peeve of mine: "coin" orientation/alignment vs "medal" or./al. - these two do not make any sense these days. How many countries except the US still align their coins this odd ;) way? I usually say "parallel alignment" vs "inverse alignment" or, better yet, write ↑↑ vs ↑↓ ...

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  10. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    One pet peeve when purchasing coins on eBay: bid wars on coins that you were looking to buy, but the price surpassed your reservation price.

    (I wrote a thread on the best strategy for eBay bidding... for most auctions, the optimal strategy is to bid your maximum at the very end to ensure your best chances of winning at the lowest possible price).
     
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  11. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    My pet peeves about the hobby...

    1. The emphasis the hobby press puts on extreme rarities that cost millions of dollars and remain obtainable only by the very few - I think this can make the hobby look out of reach or intimidating to younger potential collectors or to newcomers - honestly, the famous 1913 Liberty Nickels have little to no relevance for most collectors and I found the experience of seeing one (at ANA HQ) underwhelming. It's too distant, abstract and intangible for me, like wanting to own the Mona Lisa, date Marilyn Monroe or buy a house on Mars.

    2. The generally unwelcoming attitude the hobby has to newcomers. I know this makes sense on some level and that other fields suffer the same flaw, but as I hear and read more and more worried opinions that the hobby is alienating young or new collectors, I keep seeing more evidence why the hobby alienates these people. I see it in coin shops, at coins shows, at coin clubs, on coin forums and just about everywhere I interact with coins and numismatics. Of course, this is only a generalization and I also see plenty examples of the opposite behavior. But it's something the hobby (or industry) ignores at its own peril. The hobby and collectors in general should show more compassion and patience towards new arrivals.

    3. The repeated statement that the hobby is not about money but really about fun when it really seems to be mostly about money (somewhat related to #1). It's fundamentally a business and to pretend it's not just denies that many people look to coins as investments, status symbols or as displays of wealth, education or sophistication. It's completely possible to collect coins for fun, of course, but it's pretty difficult to collect seriously without at least some disposable income or an investment in numismatic education. Whether coins are in fact a good investment is a different issue, but sometimes they can be and this possibility probably attracts more people to the hobby than other factors.
     
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  12. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I've been at this hobby a long time.
    The think that always bothered me has mainly due to shows.
    People sit down spread there gray sheets, list of coins, bags and block the display cases.
    And then the dealers that act like they don't want your business,
    So I do go to some shows but I don't buy much at them.
    Lately I've been going mainly to drop off consignments to GC.
     
  13. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    I couldn't agree with you more! It's not just the super rarities either. The numismatic press seems to forget that terms like "affordable", "common" and "generic" are all relative. That "generic" MS65 $20 gold piece is not only beyond my budget, but beyond the budgets of probably 90 percent of Americans. I have a decent job and consider myself reasonably well off, but dropping a few Benjamins on a coin is still a significant purchase for me, just as it would be for most other "common" folk.

    On another note, I hate coins that have been dipped and improperly rinsed. There seems to be a lot of those even in straight graded slabs.

    And even more generally I just can't get myself to enjoy a problem coin.
     
  14. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    1. Sellers who get mad at you when they list a coin in a auction at no reserve, and you win the bid at less than they gave for it. NOT MY FAULT.
    2. Sellers who need to hire someone else to package there mail.
    3. US Postal Service, Paul Revere could get it here faster.
    4. The term "Unsearched".
    5. The letters "PQ" & "MS+++++++"
     
  15. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    They mean "unsearched" by the buyer, lol

    Reminds me of an eBay seller whose name ends with reat outhern oin, and begins with the letters G, S, and C.
     
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  17. Coinlover67

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  18. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    1. Dealers who spend zero attention to young collectors who are the future of the hobby.

    2. Dealers who treat female collectors as if they are unknowledgeable about the hobby or are as naive as Ainsley Earhardt on Fox and Friends.

    3. The "first strikes" label bogusity
     
  19. Pap4tinker

    Pap4tinker Active Member

    In baseball The World Series includes only 2 countries if Im notmistaken. I'm not sure if I read too fast and missed it, or if I am to assume the reason as to why the adjective world causes a problem. But it sounds fine to me. It would seem to more problematic if it was call whole world coins. And as to not totally detract from the original post, scratching coins across a countertop is my pet peeve for now.
     
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  20. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    Taking grief from my 14-year old daughter at a coin shop where she texts or tells me how much more time I can stay at the store. Especially when I am in the middle of a purchase.
     
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  21. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Yes you missed it, but most folks did, so it must be my explanation. Maybe this will help:

    Bob and Peter both post intros to the forum, stating they collect "world coins"
    a) what does Bob specifically collect?
    b) what does Peter specifically collect?
    c) if you don't know, would there be a different term they could have used to be more clear?

    To me, the answers are:
    a) I don't know
    b) I don't know
    c) Yes
     
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