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  1. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    I need a bit of help with at least narrowing down when or where this one is from. Any help with either would be great. 1.jpeg
     

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  3. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Achaemenid siglos - Persia
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Should give you an idea.

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    Persian Empire, Lydia, Anatolia
    AR Siglos
    O: Kneeling-running figure of the Great King right, bearded, crowned, dagger in right hand, bow in left hand, waist indicated, pellets on sleeves.
    R: Oblong incuse.
    Sardes (Sart, Turkey) mint
    14mm
    5.2g
    Carradice Type IV (middle) B, pl. XIV, 43; SNG Kayhan 1033; SGCV II 4683
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Old? You bet it is.

    As the others have mentioned, you have a a silver siglos from the Achaemenid_Empire there. It would be nice if someone could narrow it down to which ruler issued it. That would give a more precise idea of dating. Basically, it is 2,300-2,500 years old.
     
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  6. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    Wow, yes! That looks like it. Thank you very much, Persia would not have been at the top of my list.
     
  7. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    I am amazed to have a piece of history that old. The stories it could tell if it could talk. The hands it touched. It really humbles me.
     
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  8. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    Persian Empire, yes, but not minted in Persia (now Iran). These silver coins are called "siglos" by numismatists and were minted at Sardis, in Lydia, a western satrapy (province) of this large empire. Sardis used to be the capital of kings Midas and Cresus. Under Persian rule Sardis was the main producer of gold and silver coinage for the Persian Empire. Today it is just Sart, a small town in Western Turkey.

    Your coin :
    Obverse: Persian king kneeling-running r., holding dagger and bow, quiver over shoulder
    Reverse: Incuse punch.

    These coins were minted during the 5th and 4th centuries BC. The date fork can be narrowed from the style. Your coin most probably dates back from Darius II (424-404 BC) to Artaxerxes III (358-338 BC).

    Here is mine:
    Sicle AR.jpg
    (Xerxes II to Artaxerxes I (c. 5th Century BC) c. 486-450 BC.)
     
  9. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    That helps narrow it down a great deal and gives me very detailed information. Thank you so very much!
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    So based on that info (thanks), it looks like @MaryContrary ’s coin dates between 424-338 BC. That’s pretty old, as coins go!
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_coinage#

    That article says a gold Daric was roughly the monthly wage for a soldier. So your silver siglos (20 of which equaled a gold Daric) would have represented 1/20 of a soldier’s monthly wage, give or take.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    It sounds to me like you “get it”. That’s a huge reason so many of us are enraptured by ancient coins. And this one is very ancient indeed.
     
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  13. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    I'm unsure if my silver siglo would have bought me a glass of wine back then??? hmmm. I guess I'll never know. ;)

    I'm looking forward to posting more of my ancient coins. I have many and I love history. They are truly passions of mine. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
     
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    More than a day’s wage for a soldier, so yeah, it would have bought you a good bit of wine. An amphora full, perhaps.
     
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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic


    We would love to see them and gladly help, if you need it.
     
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    Broucheion Well-Known Member

  17. MaryContrary

    MaryContrary Wanted By Coin Cops

    Very helpful! Thank you Broucheion! :)
     
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  20. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    Very nice little siglos! They are fun coins. As it turns out, one of my most recent purchases was also an Achaemenid siglos, a bit older than yours:

    siglos_type_iiib.jpg
     
  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE.jpg
    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE
    AR Siglos
    OBVERSE: Persian king or hero in kneeling/running stance right, holding spear and bow
    REVERSE: Incuse punch
    Struck at Persia, 485-420 BC
    5.5g, 16mm
    Carradice Type IIIb, Group A/B (pl. XII, 18)
     
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