Dueling Submissions - NGC & ANACS shipped in today.

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  1. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Delivered to NGC on 4-26 at 2pm.

    They still haven’t opened the box and started the process.
     
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  3. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Mine were delivered on 4/24 to NGC and I just now received an email acknowledging receipt! So you shouldn't have long to wait! The race is on now - ANACS also received coins on 4/24 (economy tier / special) which they acknowledged (and charged my credit card for) right away. ICG I mailed in later and they acknowledged receipt right away on 5/2. NGC indicates turnaround on standard tier is 10 days for US coins and 19 days for US tokens - some of my Colonial Copper submissions may be considered tokens. I am very curious to see who ships back first and what grades I get. So exciting! Good luck to you too, please post when they acknowledge receipt.
     
  4. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Really weird but I got an automated email acknowledging receipt of my submissions at 7:11 pm yesterday, Saturday, and providing the reference numbers.
     
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  5. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Update - no word from ICG (as normal), ANACS hasn't changed status, but NGC has my world coins in "Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging" for the last two days and the US Coins in "Scheduled for Grading" since yesterday. Looks like NGC might be the fastest turnaround.
     
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  6. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Mine have the same status.
     
  7. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    My world submission has moved from grading/encapsulation to grading/quality control. My US submission is still “Scheduled for grading”
     
  8. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    World coins are still in QC, no grades yet.
    US moved to QC a couple days ago. I’m so ready for the results. It’s only been 4 weeks so I can’t complain but it’s getting harder to wait for the results.

    @MIGuy , how are your submissions going?
     
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  9. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Okay, I finally have an update - at NGC (standard submission) my World Coins (4) moved to Grading/Quality Control, then back to Scheduled for Grading, and now back to Grading/Quality Control. My 11 Colonial Coppers are still in Scheduled for Grading (coins marked received on 5/4 when they opened the package). ANACS hasn't changed status (spring special submission), open date 4/24 (shipped at the same time as the NGC submission) expected Ship Date is marked as 6/26. The big excitement for me is that ICG charged my card and I just received the email with grades indicating that my coins are on their way home (I submitted on the Cointalk special)! Some interesting misses there - a St. Patricks (NJ) copper (I thought) didn't grade (code 90) but I'm very excited a bargain 1787 New Jersey Copper I asked for attribution on is an R-5 Maris 38a (VF20 Details - Corrosion), a 1690 Gun Money Shilling (May) graded EF40 Details (some corrosion again), a 1722 Woods Hibernia halfpenny graded straight VG10, 1778 Machin's Mills Copper (F12, Details) and they were tough, but fair, as usual on my SLQs and an ex-jewelry 1875cc 20 cent piece that I wanted slabbed so it could go in with my graded 1875 (P) and 1875-S for the set (F15 Details, I thought it might go VF20/25 but, of course, they grade by the weakest points - and it's damaged).
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2023
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  10. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Getting a box of graded coins back is like Christmas morning, isn't it? 1 down (ICG was quick!) and two to go! The big news is ICG has changed their font on their labels! A small change, but nonetheless I thought it was interesting (pics of some of my newly graded slabbed pieces below, including a comparison of the old 1917-S, Type 2 label and the new one on a 1917-S Type 1), also my NGC standard submission, submitted 5/4 with a 10 day / 19 day projected turnaround, has moved! My world coins have moved to "Grading/Quality Control" and my Colonial Americans have finally moved to "Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging". ANACS is showing no change in status online.
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  11. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I have results! Also, magically, my submission has already shipped tomorrow. I’m really happy with 4, disappointed in 2 and 2 are pretty much what I expected.
     
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  12. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    ANACS shipped earlier than projected (6/26) and emailed me the grades! So far ICG was the fastest (on CoinTalk special), ANACS is apparently second fastest (on Spring special) and NGC on a full price standard submissions - 1 world coins (4 coins) and one Colonial Coppers (11 coins) (site says 10 days / 11 days for tokens turnaround for Standard Tier), that was logged in on May 4th (about a week after receipt), we still have the world coins sitting in Grading/Quality Control and the American Colonial Coppers in Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging. I'm not in any rush, just curious about the process - hence this post and these updates.

    Some of the good news from ANACS, a 1917, Type 1, Standing Liberty Quarter graded AU58 FH (Full Head!), an 1807 Capped Bust Half that graded straight VG8 and it's pal, an 1807 Draped Bust Half graded VG8, details (graffiti) which I expected, an 1828 Capped Bust Half, Square Base 2, Small 8, EF40, and some low grade Draped Bust large cents that graded straight! One disappointment, a 1920 D Standing Liberty Quarter that graded AU55.... Cleaned! I've got to get better at spotting cleaned coins (when it's not obvious). Anyway! The education and fun continue!
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2023
  13. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I’ve enjoyed your experiment and congrats on some good grades and straight grades. I only sent 8 coins total, 3 US gold and 5 world and I had 2 Detail- 1 cleaned and 1 spot removed so I think you did great.
     
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  14. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    UPDATE! NGC moved both of my submissions to Grading/Quality Control yesterday and then today they are... SHIPPED! Though I haven't received a notification email yet, the website indicates both were shipped today, June 8, 2023. The grades were almost all at or better than expected, including a nice XF45 on a big silver 1644 NETHERLAND 1 "Lion Dollar" GELDERLAND, an AU55 BN 1795 Washington "Grate" 1/2P, XF Details (Corrosion) on a 1722 Rosa Americana 1P and my low grade Vermont pieces (less than $200 for the pair) did better than expected - the scarce 1786 "Vermontensium" that I worried might be ungradable / Poor Details came back AG Details and the 1788 Bust Right scored a VG Details (Corrosion). One funny note, a SEGS graded F15 Rim Damaged 1793 Washington Letter Edge Ship 1/2P came back (accurately) as VG Details. Pictures of some of the ANACS and NGC will follow on receipt, which I anticipate will be Monday / Tuesday. It's going to be like Christmas again!

    So to reprise - I mailed ANACS (15 US coins) and NGC (15 coins - 4 world / 11 Colonial Coppers) at the same time - they were received on 4/26 and ANACS checked them in right away (I ship USPS Priority Insured). NGC opened the package on 5/4 and logged them in. ANACS was "Spring special" tier economy service and NGC was "standard" tier (10 / 19 day turnaround when received according to their website). ICG received their package (20 coins, mix world, US and Colonial Coppers) on 5/2 on the CoinTalk special / economy tier. ICG shipped back on 5/26. ANACS shipped back 6/6 and NGC ships today 6/8. All in all this experience has been very good and I would use any of these services again - though as a collector primarily concerned with authenticity and educating myself on grading / condition, for whom budget is a concern, I think ICG is really the way to go most of the time - for Morgans I do appreciate the ANACS fine reputation for VAM authenticating (though I expect ICG, NGC and PCGS are just as good). Obviously for resale the market tends to pay a premium for PCGS and NGC slabs.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2023
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  15. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - some final observations and a few photos of the Christmas in June presents from ANACS and NGC. ANACS ships UPS and NGC ships Fed Ex - Fed Ex is faster - it took the same time as USPS Priority back from ICG. ICG, ANACS and NGC all use pretty much the same cardboard box setup for shipping with little dividers (I was kind of hoping NGC would ship in a plastic box, as I have one of those for storage, along with a lot of PCGS blue boxes). One interesting discovery I made in the NGC box is that NGC apparently puts a sticker on a submission form when it is processed that shows three dates (see the pics, I had two submissions - one world and one US Colonials so one sticker each on two separate forms) first date is the Received Date - for mine that was 5/4/23 on both, then a Grade Date and then a Due Date which are different for each of my submissions, and neither of which were achieved in terms of actual processing (they were pretty far off) - but interesting to see their system on that. So here are some pics and this is a wrap I think!
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  16. Dan Spendlove

    Dan Spendlove UncleDano

    All they need is something like "1C". They will not put on the label what you want. They will put what they want on the label. That has been my experience, especially if there is no VarietyPlus for the coin
     
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