1781 North American Commerce token :D

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrweaseluv, Apr 30, 2023.

  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Ok no doubt she's "details" scratches/env dmg.. but for 60 bucks (80 canadian) my colonial copper set is damn happy to get one :D
    I'll even include the sellers suggested "AU" grade image lol
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    :hilarious::hilarious:. Nice grading. It's a good thing that your no fool. Nice buy! I've never seen one of these before. Thanks for sharing!:)
     
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Weasel, you are the King of Details coins. You have some of the nicest post mint damaged coins I have seen. You cherry-pick them well.
     
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  5. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    AU grade is wrong, it's clearly MS60!:blackeye: "Trivial wear..."
     
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  6. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    I have a similar one now at ICG for grading / slabbing - I'm glad to know it's AU, I was thinking F-VF Details on mine, boy do I feel silly! ;)
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    "AU" = Almost Ugly. :rolleyes:

    It's still a North American Token, though, with plenty of visible detail.
     
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  8. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    About Uncirculated is a stretch, but still a nice old coin.
     
  9. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Nice piece and these tend to be very, very weakly struck. I had one a while back, but sold it.
     
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  10. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Lol
     
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  12. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    arrived and yup yup I'm happy :D
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  13. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    What kind of website did you purchase that from?
     
  14. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    simple ebay auction... yeah she's details/beat but you won't find this token any better for under 100 more likely 200 while not the rarest of colonial coinage the highest graded is only a 58+ with a total of fewer then 50 in AU grades... I'm quite happy with my lil detailed pretty :D here is that 58+ and the PCGS narritive :D
    Ron Guth:
    The exact source of the 1781 North American Tokens is unknown and has been attributed to Ireland because of the presence of a harp on the obverse. However, the tokens are similar to some contemporary Canadian tokens, so this is another possibility. Regardless of their source or where they circulated, the North American tokens have been accepted into the canon of U.S. "Colonial" coins. As such, there is considerable demand for them.

    Most examples are softly struck and others show raised lines in the fields (especially on the reverse) caused in the preparation of the dies. Q. David Bowers believes these anomalies were intended to make the coins more commercially acceptable, but it may just be a case of poor die preparation and a weak coining press. Either way, the surfaces of the coins become increasingly important components of the grade. Full Mint State examples may not exist. The finest example certified by PCGS is a single PCGS AU58+.
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  15. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Really? That photo you posted last in your first post isn't ebay. Or at least doesn't look like my ebay app.
     
  16. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    that was one of the sellers pics.. not sure where it came from
     
  17. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    I see, copy that.
     
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