Abysmal bad fake. Everything about it looks like it’s been on a diet of beer and pizza. Bad lettering everything fat and mushy etc.
And just an fyi for the uninitiated. Any civil war and mid to late 1860s dates. ESPECIALLY Philadelphia are really tough. Even scarcer than mintages seem. We’re worn to death or hoarded and melted as most small silver was
Upon further comparison too. Date too small. Reverse lettering too large. Only one set of dies ti strike the 13k mintage. And the date most common in higher ms. Not circulated grades.
No, what I clearly said was that poor pictures do not have any relationship to the authenticity of the coin. And neither does uncrimped staples. If they did, then this seller could take crystal clear pictures and crimp the staples and magically the coin would become authentic. No one should use quality of pictures or crimping of staples as any indicator of authenticity.
No that's not true,I didn't say it would make the coin magically authentic now did i.You didn't even answer half my my question and my post.LAY OFF YOUR MEDS AND GO BACK TO BED.I clearly stated that i was using the staples part as another execution on the seller(NOT RELATING TO THE AUTHENTICATION PROCESS)a given fact on the bad side.The coin can be seen as a fake as stated above,so your saying pictures don't matter for coins?clearly that's not true as your avatar is a well took and edited picture.
@gmarguli was not saying pictures don’t matter for coins. All they were saying is that bad pictures and uncrimped staples have nothing to do with a coins authenticity and that you used those two things as evidence that the coin in question was undoubtedly fake.
Greg was clear with his words. He was also correct. The seller did not reply to my request for better images. I would bet the coin will show back up again.
And I thought the old stapled flip added to the authentic "look" to the piece... And maybe I have an odd sense of humor but it gets me by.
It was a bad night I'm done but one more thing for you again.If you read my post which you obviously didn't I stated the crimped staples was a general statement.Of course that couldn't determine if or not it's real or fake but it's a negative point nonetheless and I noticed.
Frankly the whole staples thing is way overblown. If you're smashing and rubbing around a bunch of thousand dollar coins in loose 2x2s, you got other problems. I've never flattened staples and never scratched a single coin. Five staples though, definitely a counterfeit red flag. If you wrinkle the duct tape, you gotta redo the whole project. (Sorry, I haven't had coffee yet...)
This was a troublesome thread for me but i understand now,I felt like I was being accused and targeted.
Looks like his MO @potty dollar 1878 ; has 3 other coin listings in his 5 that also have poor images and old time flips: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_...saslop=1&_sasl=shmar-4406&LH_SpecificSeller=1 Definitely a seller to watch...
And with that said, a pretty quick relist: https://www.ebay.com/itm/385565337620?hash=item59c57c2814:g:zosAAOSwQftkRGCi Now I don't know the series but his other listing made me chuckle at 1st glance (hopefully I don't offend anyone here with that remark...): https://www.ebay.com/itm/385565889758?hash=item59c58494de:g:1EEAAOSwQuhkRL06
I've informed the seller that, after learning that the coin is a fake, relisting this coin for sale is a federal offense. Also reported to eBay once again.
Seller just messaged me with closeups . . . my eyes were right the first time . . . there are too few horizontal stripes in the shield: A laughably bad fake . . .