Another bad seller?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ToughCOINS, Mar 26, 2023.

  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    This is a seller I bumped into when looking at a coin on eBay that looked very familiar to me . . . eBay item 134505802807.

    Here’s a link to the coin I was thinking of.

    I wonder how many of the other coins in this seller’s store are similarly offered.
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    He stealin' your images Mike?
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Damn the mother coin had twins :) unbelievable stolen images...
     
  5. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Wow, what's going on?
     
  6. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I learned to avoid sellers that I hadn't done business with in the past; especially when bidding bigger numbers. Years ago I passed on bidding on a 1926-S buffalo since the photos of the coin in it's NGC slab were bad. It was almost impossible to discern the cert #. I messaged the seller about providing me with the cert # but got no response. I just wanted to match it with the NGC app. Even if I got a valid cert # the poor image quality couldn't convince me that the slab and coin were legit.
     
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  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    He even listed it as the same serial number and co-opted some of my descriptive text.

    He listed it for a grand more than on my site, so I don’t know if he’s just marking up other seller’s coins, and then buying them only if they sell out of his store . . .
     
  8. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Listing ended an hour ago.
     
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  9. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    Mark it up to $6,495 for the time being. If this is what they are doing, then maybe that'll teach them not to target your shop ;)
     
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  10. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I think bad seller is a little to mild of a description for this douche bag.
     
  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    After some investigation, it turns out that this seller is a guy that I sold a coin to for the first time on Friday night, although that was a completely different coin. He told me he'd be back for more purchases, but he may be getting a bit ahead of himself.
     
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  12. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    Like when I see coins sell in auctions, then see them on Ebay the next day with a BIN that is double what they just paid. I try not to be too judgmental about how people make money, but I can't help thinking that this type of thing seems a bit scummy.

    But ya, basically drop-shipping somebody else's inventory, that'd be a whole other level.
     
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  13. numist

    numist Member Supporter

    It's one thing to broker for someone else so long as amicable prior agreements are in place but to rip off someone else's pics / marketing is pretty low. Quite the markup on some of that inventory.
     
  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's been recored here at CT, that there are people that will "sell" a coin they don't yet own, then try to purchase it at the lower price, then ship it to the new "buyer" for a profit, which may be happening here.
     
  15. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    This guy just called me today (at work, which I'd already informed him I prefer he not do), and told me the coin I sold him Friday (ANACS graded) arrived, holder broken. This coin was quite expensive, and packaged no differently than I package other high value coins, and I'm surprised that the holder is broken. I've asked for photos, as I don't yet know if this means the coin is removable from the holder or not. My return privilege clearly states,

    "We ask that merchandise returned to ToughCOINS® be fully insured and returned by the same shipping method originally used when delivered to you. To be eligible for a refund, coins must be returned in their original unopened, undamaged holders, and be sent back within 14 days of receipt."​

    Clearly this guy's past actions demonstrate a willingness to take advantage of others, and I'm concerned he may switch coins on me.

    I'm not feeling very chipper right now . . .
     
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  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Good luck! So many scummy buyers on ebay, I have a rather long "blocked buyers" list.
     
  17. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I wasn’t selling on eBay. He found the coin on my website.
     
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  18. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    If possible, get your coin back, then give him his money back. Then tell him to go find a river to jump in.
     
  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I hate to be such a cynic but, when someone describes a holder as broken, I take that to mean one piece has been made into two or more. It turns out that, in this case, the holder simply has a few cracks in the edge, and the halves are not separable. I am now less worried about coin-swapping.
     
  20. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    He insisted on using PayPal instead of a check or MO . . . refunding him for this purchase will take $245 out of my hide, unless I issue a partial refund instead. Ugh!
     
  21. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    "A few cracks in the edge" reminds me of that guy being sued by NGC for substituting coins into their holders. A photo of one of the holders showed... a few cracks in the edge. I've never dealt with selling any coins but I'd sure be wary of what's going on here, the guy sounds like a sleazebag. Do you have images good enough to ID the exact coin you sold him?
     
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