Used to be a NGC MS64

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The obverse tone is pretty heavy, and sometimes I suspect that the TPG'S use up their "8 seconds per coin" trying to ensure its not a counterfeit, not fake toning, not cleaned, instead of actually grading the coin appropriately.
     
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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Double-edged sword. I suspect 67's can be found in 65 slabs as well as 63's.
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The eight seconds you mention is a farcical myth cooked up by someone, somewhere and spread to your ears about TPG's. There is no one on the planet who could keep that rate of speed up for any length of time. SILVER EAGLES EXCEPTED - that's why so much crap gets graded MS/PR-70 and hand lens are not needed. I've heard some TPG's say their job is like working in a sweat mill on occasion. :jawdrop::facepalm:

    I will say in defense of the eight second myth: Most professional numismatists can probably arrive at a suitable grade for a coin in a little less time. However, a grader must remove the flip from a box; remove the coin from the flip; examine the coin (this will take longer if it is an important coin, a suspect coin, a borderline grade, or if he/she uses a hand lens); key in his grade; enter it; key in next coin; put coin in flip; return coin to box - DONE. All while paying attention to what MAY be going on in the room around him.

    Try that at home and time yourself while doing all the steps above. I just did a few and it took twenty to twenty-two seconds for three coins using a hand lens. So, do at least three coins and HOPFULLY others will try this experiment in this thread. Then we may get closer to the actual time a coin is seen in the grading room.
    It should be entertaining.
     
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  5. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Love it, the toning is beautiful.
     
  6. merrill01

    merrill01 Member

    If you base all of your purchases on what the slab says, I suggest buying the coin and not the slab.
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I'm kinda hating you again right now CBD :)

    I haven't played the upgrade or crossover game yet but every thread like this makes me wanna start. WTG!
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Oh come on... I may make $100 profit IF I'm extremely lucky and someone pays for the toning. Remember, I sunk more into it with grading fees and about to even more with CAC.
     
  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I get that and it's not this nice little score specifically. It's the coins in my collection that can jump big if I get just a grade or maybe two higher that I think about after threads like these :)
     
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  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    HAS ANYONE TRIED THIS YET? Just to be more clear it took me tweny to twenty-two seconds to grade each of three coins.
     
  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Has anyone tried this yet? It took me twenty to twenty-two seconds to grade each coin of the three.
     
  12. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    I think it will get the green bean. The toning is rather attractive to people who like toned coins, and walkers are sometimes difficult to find with that kind of toning.
     
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Might make a good new thread!
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Market grading.
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    @ C-B-D: "Might make a good new thread!"

    Not if no one (even you) tried it and posted the results! :bigtears::(
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2016
  16. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    64 or 66, it is a beautifully toned coin.
     
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  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    To me, it's a really pretty coin. Can't argue with the 66 grade. Nice work on getting the upgrade.
     
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  18. Michael Terry

    Michael Terry DAV_ALASKAMIKE

    Very Very nice coin. It seems these days a lot of people go over board on there grading.
    I would vey much like to have this coin in my collection. Thanks for sharing it.
     
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  19. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Nice upgrade. I think ngc has been brutal lately. I sent some walkers that I thought 64-5 on and they came back 62. What a waste of money on them. They're not really worth cracking again but I may try the best at pcgs in an economy and see what they say
     
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  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    To those saying the coin is overgraded as an MS66, why would CBD crack the coin out for resubmission if he didn't think it would upgrade?
     
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  21. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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