Good morning! Woke up this morning to a call from my dad - "I think I have a counterfeit note, can you take a look?" As SOON as you pick them up, you realize the paper is completely wrong. Then you look closer, and just so many things wrong...including that they have the same serial #. He got them from someone he does business with on a pretty regular basis - no idea how he's going to resolve it yet, but here they are: Enjoy!
The pictures alone can be detected as counterfeit. One must be careful so as not to be taken but it looks like dad is out $100.00.
Definitely don't try to handle it through the police because they must immediately confiscate them. There is no reimbursement Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Oh yes - same with a bank. I only came across one counterfeit bill (a $20) while I worked there, and the paperwork was just...awful. But we did have to confiscate it. He's trying to get in touch with they guy (he calls him "Russian guy," so you KNOW it's going to end well.) Will keep you guys posted, if you'd like.
I don't believe in screwing the next guy. If you can get the other guy to fess up. That'd be best, my guess is he knew exactly what he was doing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yeah, I also wouldn't spend them to get rid of them. Canadian quarters, yes, but $100? I just don't want to be the guy who tries to spend a counterfeit note (and has another one in his pocket) on the day Mr. Vigilant Overachiever is working at Wal-Mart and then I end up in prison. Apparently, the guy who gave them to him is going to reimburse him even though "how can he tell if they are his or not." Which, I don't know about you, but to me, sure means he knew they were counterfeit...
I see they both have the " Marker " test done on them and I can see the marker change somewhat yellow, on the first one . which makes it ok, I guess ....
Counterfeit pens do not work. They just turn color on Federal Paper that is used to print bills of all denominations. The only real test is to place the bill under a black light and check to see what color the security thread turns. All denominations have them except the $1.00 bill and each denomination is a different color.
Well, considering the paper is completely wrong, they are even the wrong size, the ink is clearly running in different spots on both bills, there are no security strips or watermarks, and they both have the same serial number...not too worried about the pen's opinion lol
You can tell that the color-shifting ink on the righthand lower of the front is all wrong. But all in all it's amazing what some cotton paper and a really good computer printer can produce. Sorry for your dad's loss. I hope this Russian guy goes to Federal Prison. P.S. I'm not tough on all crime, just crime that directly effects our country's economic strength. One of my favorite old time movies is "T-men", about the U.S. treasury department. I own a copy of that film.
Well, I'm not quick to send someone to prison without knowing all the facts. Yes, it seems fishy to me...but there is still a possibility that he really didn't know they were fake. So we'll see how it ends up.
True... I guess I jumped the gun there... But I do hope that they trace the money back to the counterfeiting outfit.
The only printing machines I'm aware of that can produce color shifting ink is a 3D printer, and of course the U.S. B.E.P.'s high tech machines. And weaving a security thread into paper made of cotton and linen + other secret ingredients is way too costly unless you are at the level of a nation state. Have you ever heard of North Korea's "Super Notes" (Dubbed as such by the media)? They are 100 dollar bills dated 2001 and 2003( not sure about the dates).... That have both color shifting ink and the security thread. Crazy right? I heard that these notes were produced and introduced into circulation in such high numbers that it is highly likely that several of the notes are still in circulation. I will have to do some research about how to detect these notes but I'll try to post some info on that here in the Paper Money forum, unless someone else already knows the answer to that.
Found the info on them..... Apparently they have more detail than U.S. machines in use were capable of at the time... In other words they are too good.... NY times article link to the story below.... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/23/magazine/23counterfeit.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Like I said, each denomination fluoresces a different color. Your $20.00 and $100.00 notes are Star notes.
