Q. Pomponius Musa

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  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I (re)learned a couple of things when I bought a MVSA recently:
    • always take a list of what I have to a coin store
    • there is an "easy" way to tell the MVSA coins apart
    I was close to one of my favorite coin stores and decided to stop and see if they had any RR coins. Turns out they did -
    5.27.16 003.JPG 5.27.16 004.JPG
    Q. Pomponius Musa
    Obverse - Head of Apollo, R; behind wreath
    Reverse - Polyhymnia facing, wearing wreath; Q.POMPONI, R; MVUA, L
    Rome, 66 BC
    Cr 410/10a
    Grueber 3617

    I did not have a list of my coins with me, but I figured since I only had one MVSA what is the chance this is the same as the one I have. After all, there are 10 types with several minor variations. With my luck...... about 100%
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    P6080796.JPG

    I like to confirm attributions, so I read the descriptions in Crawford & found I have a difficult time telling the differences in some of the reverse characters. It is much easier to read the symbol behind Apollo. There are 10 types of symbol and they match the reverse character. Both of mine have wreaths.

    410/1 Q.POMPONI MVUA
    410/2 Lyre key
    410/3 Scroll
    410/4 Scepter
    410/5 Two flutes, crossed
    410/6 Flower
    410/7 Tortoise
    410/8 Star
    410/9 Sandal
    410/10 Wreath

    Can we get one of each in this thread? Post yours.
     

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  3. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    I just bough my first muse last month, Polyhymnia same as yours. 9 more to go.

    Volodya, FWIW, wrote an article that was recently published in the RBW festschrift (sp?) on the commonly misidentified Erato for Terpsichore. Perhaps he'll give an overview if he reads this.

    My coin ex Imhoof-Blumer, Hirsch 1907.

    Q Pomponius Musa Polyhymnia 410-10a NAC 2016.jpg
     
  4. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    I have some pretty nice Muses:

    Phil (83).JPG
    Phil (88).JPG
    Phil (89).JPG
    Phil (90).JPG
     
  5. Volodya

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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Just to bring the average grade of this thread down a notch, here's my Terpsichore and tortoise :).

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  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful topic and coin posts!!!!:woot:

    Unfortunately, that moneyer has somehow perfected a way to elude me:rolleyes::(
     
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  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is my nice Musa: Crawford 410/8 Cr410s8SR359o.JPG Cr410s8SR359r.JPG
    Urania, the muse of astronomy, "pointing with rod at globe on tripod stand"
    Sear 359. 66 BC.
     
  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

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  11. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Damn! I thought I'd been so careful!
     
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  12. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    There is one problem with your attribution...the date. While Crawford assigns this issue to 66BC, Hersh and Walker showed in The Mesagne Hoard, ANS Museum Notes 29 (1984), that the date must be 10 years later, 56BC. This article, written 10 years after Crawford was published and based on then recent hoard evidence, is an important update to Crawford's dating of 1st century BC material.
     
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  13. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I have used both dates in my files. I use Crawford's dating when posting coin information because that is an accepted reference.
    Hersh & Walker present compelling arguments that the coins of MVSA should be later. Michael Harlan in Roman Republican Moneyers & Their Coins 63 BC to 49 BC omits MVSA's coins.
    I had not seen Volodya's interesting article on the subject in the link above.
     
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