Thanks, 49er. I've been collecting counterstamps and other exonumia for almost as long as dirt has been around.It's been a good ride. Bruce
Wow, Jack, you do have a big collection. I don't think I ever asked you if you have any preferences in the types of military tokens you collect...country, time frame, denomination, etc. Just being curious, but how long have you been collecting? Bruce
Well my main focus is on Air Force bases or Army bases that were turned over to the Air Force when it became it's own service. There were also a couple that I bought just because I liked them, like this one: As far as countries, I have no interest in foreign tokens. Now time periods...I would like to get into Sutler tokens but the cost to play is too high for me so far. $300 for one token! A little steep for me.
Nice stuff, you guys really have me looking at a lot of exonumia on the web now. I like almost everything I see. I,m thinking I want to start with the colonial tokens, or civil war... heres a couple civil war era tokens I have
Civil War tokens are interesting to collect, 49er. While some are very pricey, many are available that are easy on the wallet. There are a lot of references available as well as info on the internet. Bruce
Here's some more of my exonumia related to numismatics. I love the toning on the Fowler token. The second one is a die trial strike on aluminum. I don't know what the "EVN" reverse means. It may be some ones initials or a company name. The two, J&D Coins and EVN, must be related in some way, but it's a mystery to me. Bruce
That Fowler token brass? Interesting color. I have a token in similar style from Langley AFB...I'll post it later.
Oh one more thing...I've been after them since 2013. Never knew they existed before then. I was lucky and bought a bunch from a retiring collector. @old49er just go easy when you start out and figure out what you really like first or you may end up with a bunch of stuff you don't care much for a year later. Like Bruce said lots of good info out there for Civil War era store tokens.
Thanks for the sage advise. BRandM,and Jwt. I really think ,it will be the civil war tokens. with so much history dripping from them...although I do love the colonials, they are expensive from what I,ve seen.
Not sure what your budget can handle...but there are Sutler tokens and those are the earliest form of U.S. military token I'm aware of. Sutlers were people who sold goods to soldiers during the Civil War that the Army didn't provide. Sutlers would also extend credit to the soldiers to be repaid when their next "paycheck" came. In fact the Sutler would be sitting next to the quartermaster so the cash would go from the government to the soldier then Sutler. They got a bad reputation during the war (and earned some of it) and were abolished by 1898 I believe. Their tokens generally run in the $300+ range.
that aluminum one is really interesting. you can see the lathe marks on the surface and the horizontal lines for the script...nice
nice, non commissioned officers mess. I was a subsistence specialist 2nd class E-5, after 4 yrs. Coastguard. although I never saw any tokens. I can still relate to these. nice job there
I'm active duty Air Force so that's why I go after them. Numismatic heritage and all. I'm actually not sure if the Coast Guard had any...I've never thought about it. I know there are ship tokens and Navy, Marine, and Army. Going to have to do some research.
Jwt708 and to all CT members: I just received several email messages from an individual I purchased a military token from. (Through eBay ) The first was an acknowledgement with tracking information. The second was a response after I acknowledged receipt and mentioned I was stationed there, in Fort Bliss, in 1963. His response: "I have refunded your purchase for this token. Thank you for your service to our country." It absolutely floored me. It wasn't an expensive piece but it was the message that had the most value. There are some great people out there hidden among all the nuts in this world.
My new token arrived today. Picked this one up from Ernie Latter. When I saw the strike on the F-164 die, I had to have it. While the 164 die is a pretty common one, they often come with lack of general eagle feather detail, particularly flat or no feather detail on the eagle's legs, and soft or partial strike up of the "UNION" text on the shield. I'm very happy with this one in hand, and it surpassed my expectations of luster and quality given the so-so photos that were provided by the seller. Civil War Patriotic Token, F-164/312a: Some close-up detail of the Eagle: