SEGS coin grading company

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Rick Brown, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    That stamp doesn't look right. It's badly faded and is missing most of the line detail that should be present on the face. The encasement detail at 6 o'clock on the reverse - could this have been opened?
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Our initial delay was in ordering a book to properly place an attribution on it. The book went backordered!"

    Am I the only one who thinks this a little, well, odd? Not a terrible thing, obviously, but it seems rather tacky that someone, anyone would accept an item needing to be attributed prior to having the reference necessary to do so unless made clear before the submission. Perhaps it was, I don't know, but if not it suggests an unfortunate and unnecessary lack of professionalism.
     
  4. Copper56

    Copper56 Active Member

    Would the person attributing actually know whether or not he could, or couldn't, without first seeing the item?
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I don't know anything about these but would it actually take a book to attribute it? The internet is such a powerful tool. As much as I love books, I can't depend on owning them all. This is not a poke at Larry. I just don't understand the logic.
     
  6. Copper56

    Copper56 Active Member

    If you are in the attribution business maybe it has to do with the necessity of being correct. No TPG company is 100% perfect but they are responsible for trying to be.
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Good point. As a business you would need to get it right. Someone would start a thread about it if you got it wrong.
     
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  8. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Lots of "he said", "she said" going on here. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Guess it depends on how you look at it. From time to time NGC and PCGS both send coins out to others outside of the company to have them authenticated and/or attributed, and graded.

    Point is, no TPG can authenticate, attribute, or grade, every coin. So sometimes they seek help from those who can.
     
  10. Copper56

    Copper56 Active Member

    Personal experience.. About five years ago, at a large show, I was inquiring at the NGC table about a coin and they sent me to Larry Briggs for his opinion. NGC guy said "if Larry says its 'good' then we will accept it. (for slabbing) He gave it the thumbs up. I let NGC slab that one, but took my others back over to Larry.
     
  11. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    For that matter, for all the skeptics, how would you go about "authenticating" the OP's piece? Not valuate or attribute, but authenticate.
     
  12. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Have a GOOD ambulance-chaser write a letter for you and see if it helps him "find it"-or his checkbook,don't wait he may checkout first....
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    So, you want him to send you the piece while you are still holding the $400 he reimbursed you? That would not be wise for anyone to do. I would never send you the item until you sent back the $ in this situation.
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    From reading what is claimed to be a email from Larry, it seems Larry is saying the OP has changed his story multiple times. He is also saying the op can have his pice back but he is going to have to go through Larry's attorney. (I assume Mr Weems is Larry's attorney.)

    I don't know the OP but I do know Larry. If that is actually an email from Larry I can't believe he posted it because it does nothing to help support the OP cause and after reading it I an much more likely to think the truth is closer to Larry's story than the OP's.
     
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  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I felt the same way.
     
  16. Rick Brown

    Rick Brown New Member

    Looking for some help please. Ok, I just received a certified letter stating he found my coin (this is a year later) and if I return his $418.50 he will send me back my grandmothers coin. This is fine in fact if it is the same coin I will pay express shipping and $5000 insurance on it. Well I emailed him directly and again I am being avoided. Pretty frustrating...All I ask for is pictures of the front and back to make sure it is the exact same coin (as he told me he was trying to find one to replace it)and I get no response. His letter states he is going to sell it if I dont send him the money by June 1st 2016. Pictures is all I ask for can anyone advise me or help in anyway? Thank you in advance, Rick
     
  17. Andrew Snovell

    Andrew Snovell Active Member

  18. Rick Brown

    Rick Brown New Member

    That is next, Thanks!
     
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  19. Andrew Snovell

    Andrew Snovell Active Member

    SEGS is a reputable company in my opinion. Not sure where the disconnect is. I'm sure it will be taken care of.
     
  20. Copper56

    Copper56 Active Member

    IMO, there are many things you can say about Larry Briggs, but an outright thief is not one of them. He is extremely knowledgeable and as I've said, I've entrusted him with many coins for identification. One in particular was very rare, and although he owned a few of them in similar and less grade, I was never worried about getting my own coin back. Which I did. With an offer, btw.
    I believe if Larry said he misplaced your piece then that's what happened. I know you say its a family piece and that's unfortunate, however your piece is not particularly expensive and I'm sure its not something He would covet. I own four and all were my grandfathers; I also know a man that owns 16. And, I know of a few more. They are out there and if Larry had wanted one he would simply have purchased one. I know your feelings are hurt and you are disappointed, but things happen. If you are perfect then, by all means rant on, but if not... try to move on.
     
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  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I have a pretty good idea where the disconnect is.
     
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