Nice Die Crack!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by keemao, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. keemao

    keemao Well-Known Member

    Found his little gem soon after starting the new box of quarters. 2004 Iowa.
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  3. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Yes it is. Very nice! How does the rest of it look. Usually you'll find die chips associated with it.
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'm not trying to put anyone down, but I don't know why anyone makes a big deal about die cracks. Yes, it is cool if you can find a multi-coin progression showing the crack growing as long as there is another die marker that can show that all of the coins came from the same die, but a single coin with a common crack is just not worth much. I just don't want to see newcomers to the hobby misled.

    Chris
     
  5. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Congratulations! That is a nice die crack. :)
     
  6. keemao

    keemao Well-Known Member

    Who said I was making a big deal about it? I just thought it was cool. If you don't like it, no big deal to me. But Chris, you sure are a big downer in this group with putting down what people find a lot of times. You say you are not trying to put anyone down, but that's exactly what you do with many comments like the one above. We all know you are SOOOOOOO much better than the rest of us peons!!
     
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  7. keemao

    keemao Well-Known Member

    I looked over it with a loop. Nothing but some PMD.
     
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  8. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Hey @cpm9ball - @keemao is right. You have a distinct track record of adding your smart ass and condescending remarks to a boat load of these threads!! Would you like me to send them to you? I'm getting a little tired of it as well from where I sit.

    Didn't your mother ever tell you if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all?
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Give me a damn break, quit whining and read my last sentence. If someone doesn't step up and say something, how will newcomers to the hobby ever learn. If you weren't making a big deal about it, why did you refer to it as a "gem"? Grow up!

    Chris
     
  10. cpm9ball

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    Mom also told me to help others when no one else will. I now know which group you are in.

    If you don't want to be criticized, then don't post.

    Chris
     
  11. keemao

    keemao Well-Known Member

    "but a single coin with a common crack is just not worth much."

    The word "gem" was just a figure of speech, something you apparently cannot understand in the English language. The same as saying "neat", "groovy", "cool" or any other word. I was not implying that it is a coin worth tons of money or even more than 25 cents, although to someone it might be worth a few cents more than face value. Your comments are many times not critisism but smart ass and demeaning to even new collectors who post what they think is an error but is not.

    Your first sentence says it all: "I'm not trying to put anyone down, but I don't know why anyone makes a big deal about die cracks."

    You start off by putting down my posting of the die crack. If you had started off with something less derogatory and then went on to explain the progression, etc, etc, then you would come off as a much nicer person. It's like your fingers can't resist the urge to put someone down for their find! Nuff said!!
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Newcomers need to understand that there is very little value in this type of thing. Someone need to say it. The OP did not bother to bring it up. The coin is in no way a "gem". Wrong term for something like this. I'm glad that Chris posts honest and correct information in these threads. Again, someone needs to say it.
     
  13. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    BULL! You're not helping anyone! You're just pissing people off! You can't even admit when you're wrong, that's a problem!

    You're just trolling through these threads day after day, week after week and month after month just looking to make smart ass comments and criticize (your word), to prove to yourself that you're better then everyone else!

    There are plenty of others out here willing and help without being condescending.
    You're not God's gift the coin collecting! I'm not the only one who has picked up on this Chris. Like I said, you have an on-going track record of providing snobbish feedback and patronizing. Your arrogant personality jumps off these threads!
     
  14. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    I'll say it. It's not what he says, it's how he says it! GET THE POINT??
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Actually I think you just need to grow some skin and stop being so insulting. If you don't want the truth don't post.
     
  16. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I think this is a case of 'to each there own'. I am personally not a fan of die cracks per se, but to the extent they are easy die attribution points I find them very interesting. Now, I don't collect modern coins by die variety (or at all really), but for collecting large cents they are very informative. They help attribute coins and as you point out can show progression of die wear. I really enjoy the variety attribution aspect of late date large cents in particular, and die cracks, cuds, and die states in general is specifically what drew me to that area of numismatic study. It provided much more enjoyment/engagement for me than collecting series of coins where the only difference is which date is on the coin. But that is coming from someone with 20 varieties of 1851 large cents, so I'm not putting series collectors down.

    I appreciate your comment on value, and I think it does need to be said and adds value to the discussion. Die breaks in and of themselves do not generally add value to coins. In fact, they would decrease the value in my mind for type/date sets as they are in fact minting defects. However, to the extend that die breaks can be used to identify rare varietes, and rare varietes are often rare exactly because the die failed early in the minting process, coins with die breaks can bring very large premiums. But people need to understand it's not the die breaks add value, it's the rarity of the variety, and not every coin with a die break is a rare variety.
     
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  17. cpm9ball

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    We're supposed to be teaching people about collecting. Look up the word "gem". Don't make an excuse that it is the same as neat or cool because it's not and you know it. You just don't want to admit it.

    Chris
     
  18. cpm9ball

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    I'm helping the people who won't fall for your dumb lessons because I've got the guts to call you out on your stupidity. You call it snobbish and patronizing only because I don't ooh and aah over such numismatic trivia.

    Chris
     
  19. cpm9ball

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    Mommy, mommy! He's saying bad things to me. Aw, poor baby!

    Chris
     
  20. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Well said!

    Chris
     
  21. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    Personalities and emotions can compete with great coin advice. These little brawls promote interest and add spice to this great site. I am glad to see folks let off steam, it is healthy. Really we all seem to be friends, passing away our short time on this planet.
     
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