world coin grade help

I need a opinion when it come to world coins, is there a website that offers grading for world coins cause I sure cant find one. I have some that I think may be worth grading but im not sure.

 

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The grading of coins does not depend on where they come from. It is just a matter of how worn they are. Same as US coins. The main difference is that overseas collectors do not usually 'micro-grade' uncirculated coins in the obsessional way US collectors do.

If you can tell a VF from a F or EF, you can grade world coins.

Post pictures of the ones you are doubtful about for a second (to nth) opinion.

 

post pics we can help you out

 

VF

 

I'd call that a VF+ (in the American scale).

 

Seriously, what does it matter?

The real questions you need to ask yourself are: Is it a "nice" coin? Do I like it? Do I want to add it to my collection? Is the price for it reasonable for me?

If the answers to all of the above is YES, then buy it and be happy.

Grading is way overrated!!!

 

yes, but if he is wanting to know the price of a coin.... then yes he needs to learn how to grade so he does not get ripped off buying a coin.

 

I think what the OP is asking is whether he should consider having it slabbed (professionally "graded").

 

Not necessarily. He should buy what he likes for the price that is reasonable for him to pay. The prices of most International coins' grades, in the K&M, don't really show what the true "price" should or should not be.

Most of the coins sell for 50%-75% off K&M prices, and I would pay 10x more than K&M prices, if I could only find some other coins.

The most reliable "price guide" is to search what these coins were sold for at auctions (either major auctions or eBay).

 

I would agree most Krause prices are not accurate for rarer coins. pretty close for common coins though. the coin pictured is not worth get graded.

KM#181 5 cents 1950 metal-bronze, mintage-18,600,000 a very common coin. this coin in VF20-$0.10

the only coins I would think about getting graded would be coins worth at least $100-1,000+

 

Sorry you feel this way. Hope this does not "catch on" with the newer collectors.

Now to the OP's coin. IMHO (what?) IMO that coin is closer to AU than to VF so I grade it XF at the least due to the detail present. Just looked again:

Europe: EF-
US: AU

But the surfaces and eye appeal are "nasty." So perhaps worth VF money but AU details. Anyone agree?

 

I have lots of "world" coins, including the USA, often I will buy one simply because it is unusual or I just like the design. If inexpensive enough, I go for the best details and surface...not too sure how to grade them since there are so many different types.

 

I just grade them as I would a US coin. The European collectors grade a little differently than we do but over the years the difference has narrowed A LOT.

The major problem most of us have trying to grade world coins...we don't know what the fully struck BU design should look like. On an original coin, we can look for the amount of mint luster remaining or the amount of luster loss on the high points just as we commonly do for US coins. Start trying to grade Polish coins (for an example) and it becomes more difficult. NOW, if we were all living in Poland and collected our country's coins all our lives we could be discussing how to grade US coins.

 

I happen to live where this coin comes from. For all practical purposes, this coin, and most post WOII-Pre Euro small change, here just has three grades: Unc, EF and the rest. Ofcourse you can subdivide the rest in different grades ad infinitam. But they will mostly remain unsold from the 25 cents a piece box.
An amount like this you may find in any average household here. I am not a dealer and i don't collect these. They were just forgotten and can't be used anymore.

 

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I'd call that one (1950, by the way, not 1960) EF, there is a trace of wear to the high poiints but it would go in a mixed bag of foreign minors as a common coin in a reasonably common condition. 18,000,000 mintage.

I agree with an earlier poster that if you are trapped in the TPG merry-go-round, it is pointless submitting any coin worth less than $100.

 

I find there are varying standards in grading. British auction houses like Baldwins/Spink/St. James are very conservative. I seen MS-64 AV Noble Edward III slabbed downgraded to EF in Spink auction. Same for most European sites. Kunker only calls MS-66 "Stempelglanz" or uncirculated. French auctions also only rate MS-66 as FDC. CNG is one of strictest in grading, anything they call Supberb EF is MS-65 or better. I would rather get a coin from Ars Classica graded Good EF then a slabbed one MS-CHOICE 5/5 4/5...
John

 

What I don't understand is on certain world coins lets say a German 5 and 10 pfenning from what I found out you grade by the leaves but others its something else. Am I right to assume you look at the high points on the coin for grading? This coin is not one I was thinking of sending in for grading but I do have a few but some coins vary quite a bit in value from fine to xf and I was hoping to get an idea how to grade so if I go to sell them I don't list something as xf when it's fine.

 

post some more pics here of your coins.