Book and Coin- Coinage of the Satavahana Empire

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ancientnoob, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Some of you might have realized that I and few others here dabble in the largely unexplored region of Ancient Indian Numismatics. India coinage presents a new and unique set of challenges to the Western collector. There are countless numismatic oddities, coins like no other in the world.

    Some time ago I had acquired this ridiculously ugly coin for no other reason than I had never seen the type before and I recognized the dynasty.

    Remember this guy?
    Satavahanafatboy.jpg


    Well, with this book which I am sure is hella' out of date (1980) I tried to Id this coin using the book.

    Quick recap of the coin - Lead(ish) 21 mm x 7.00 grams -Tall funky elephant right. Trunk raised,[unlinked Ujjani Symbol] over elephant's back. ["Legend"] around. Reverse: Railed tree with Big leaves.

    The book itself is great, easy to read and everything but oh, man the plate photos suck, and the plate coins suck too. The story of the Satavahana is quite interesting and riveting-I wont ruin it for you. So I think I found the attribution as it is given by I.K. Sarma.

    *Drum Roll*
    King Kausikiputra note date is given but he is placed between Sata Siri who died in BC 161 and Satakarni II who ruled BC 161 - 145. So I guess it is the dude who ruled for a year? BC 161!! Ok.

    ...but looking over the book all the "tall elephant" coins are attributed to King #2 Satavahana ruling BC 179-161 BC ...whaa? I have more reading to do 'cuz now I got more questions.
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2016
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    oh and I bought the book off of vCoins from Jerry Walker for $21.83 out the door.
     
    Jwt708 likes this.
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh yeah... i remember that guy!

    can i post my sunga elephant squares again?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    Sunga Empire, AE 1/2 karashapana, 2nd-1 Century BC
    O: Elephant, Indra-dhvaja, tree, swastika, taurine; R: hollow cross, stupa, bodhi tree, taurine. 14 mm, 2.6 g, Mitchiner ACW 4348-4352?
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice OP-elephant, Noob (congrats)

    ... oh, and your coin rocks too, chrsmat

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
    Ancientnoob likes this.
  6. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    My HUUUGE collection of Satavahana coin.
    SatavahanaCoins.jpg
     
  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice coins, I like indian material too. What would be good reference book on Hunnic coinage/ Kashmir/ late Kidarite? Also a good one for Indian Sultanates.

    John
     
    Ancientnoob likes this.
  8. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks, WOW! that book on Sultanate coinage....is that the price?
    Shows $4200! Most expensive book I have ever seen, except for Guttenberg Bible!
    The the first book I have....it is great. CNG has a book , "The Sunrise collection" about Parthian/Persic/Sassanian/Hunnic coins is that a good one to have?
    John john photos 1 (Medium).jpg
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Well the NEW book on the Sultanate is a STEAL!

    AMAZON:
    2 New from $4,282.30 1 Used from $7,786.30
     
    randygeki likes this.
  11. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Stupid Amazon "auto-competitive" pricing gets screwed up. It should cost no more than $75-$100. It is a great book and if you want it, I can send you a link to where you can get it cheaper! Of course, if you are a CNG bidder, you could have it cheaper than $4,000 :rolleyes::

    CNG Auction.JPG
     
    panzerman and stevex6 like this.
  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for book info:

    i searched all over found prices from $416.00 NEW too $7400.00 NEW!!!!!

    So, I got a brand new copy for $416.00 Barnes&Noble.

    I have never seen such a wide range of prices...
    John
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Gawd, that seems like an awful lot of coin-cash to spend on a 15 year old book?

    => hopefully it's a total winner (please give us your book review after you've read through it, okay?)
     
    panzerman likes this.
  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    It is supposed to be best book on subject, hope they show life size photos of the Mughal Empire massive AV 1000/500/200/100 Mohurs! The 1000 Mohurs weighed 35 pounds/diameter 240 mm!

    I will give everyone a full review.
    John

    PS: I hope no one out there is paying those mega prices....
     
  15. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    @panzerman, the Goron & Goenka book is about the coinage of the (semi-) independent sultanates. Large part of the book covers the Sultans of Delhi and the Bengal Sultans. The mainstream Mughal Empire coinage is Not covered by the book !
    (I have the book, paid 75 euro's for it)
     
    panzerman and Ancientnoob like this.
  16. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Are the coinages issued from Gujurat/Malwa/Jaunpur/Kulbarga/Kashmir in book?

    John
     
  17. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    There are sections on:
    - Muslim rulers of Sindh & Punjab.
    - Sultans of Dehli.
    - Sultans of Bengal.
    - Sultans of Madura.
    - Bahmani Sultans and precursors.
    - Adil Shahs of Bijapur.
    - Barid Shahs of Bidar
    - Nizam Shahs of Ahmadnagar.
    - Qutb Shas of Golkonda.
    - Sultans of Jaunpur.
    - Sultans of Kalpi.
    - Sultans of Gujarat.
    - Sultans of Khandesh.
    - Sultans of Malwa.
    - Sultans of Kashmir.

    It is a good book as a catalog. Pictures are in black and white and not always of great quality.
     
    Ancientnoob likes this.
  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks, that explains a lot. Probably good addition, Friedberg/ Mitchener books are not that good on subject. Of course if I had to do a book on any topic, it would have color high quality photos, with good write up.
     
  19. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Sure, a high-quality color picture book would be nice. But consider, especially 15 years ago, that would tremendously raise production costs for a book with a fairly small audience. The book would become ridiculously expensive. You would never find a publisher for that. So compromises had to be made.
     
    Ancientnoob and panzerman like this.
  20. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    That books costs about $125 if you bought it from one of the book sellers in India and get it shipped for free. It is definitely NOT a $400 or $500 book! I bought mine a few years ago from printsasia.com for about $70 shipped to the US...
     
    Ancientnoob likes this.
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page