Bad enough to get details?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BigTee44, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    So I'm sending in a submission this week and I wanted to send this to pcgs but I really want it in an NGC holder. They won't cross it even though I sent an email asking if they would. It's a 58 and I just don't want a details coin coming back. I've seen bigger scratches with clean grades but I don't want to risk this coin getting details. Obviously some of the pictures are at angles to make it show.
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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I wouldn't think that the scratch would details it. Pretty coin.
     
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Should be fine, but they may disagree. The only sure way would be crossing to PCGS or leave as is, at least in those two instances you know it will at the very least keep it's current grade.
     
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  5. Stevearino

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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Pretty coin. I thought NGC would cross these but I don't understand how that works if they call it a details grade.
    I think the coin looks really happy in the holder it is in.
     
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    For whatever reason NGC will only allow cross overs for PCGS slabs, anything else gets cracked out and graded raw.
     
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  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yeah, that's one thing I really_don't_like about NGC.
     
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  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I don't understand that either, you can literally send basement slabs for cross over to PCGS if you really wanted too and I think ANACS may actually allow that too. If it is because they are too worried they'll miss something before opening the slab of other services they probably shouldn't be doing cross overs at all.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That's a really tough policy. Good to know.
     
  11. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Someone once said in another thread that they only allowed pcgs because most of the coins they were getting for crossover outside of pcgs were not crossing and they said the customers were complaining about paying fees when the coins didn't cross. How true that is I'm not sure.

    It is dumb. If you're going to grade my coin and charge me, I should be able to send it into you however I want. They're only losing business by doing it. Who knows though. Maybe their crossovers aren't a big part of their sales.
     
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  12. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That seems like a rather silly reason if that really is the case. PCGS generally sits in the high 30s percentage wise for successful crossovers over the course of the year and people still send them to them. I can't find if they publish similar statistics on it like PCGS does but would be curious to see their current success rate if they do.

    If they were honestly concerned about that they could have always just said it is only half the fee for coins that do not cross, seems most reasonable people would be okay with something along those lines.

    All they've really accomplished is assuring every valuable cross from ANACS/ICG ect ends up giving PCGS business. Completely agree that if you're willing to pay to have them take a look they should do it. Crossovers may not be a big part, but without that rule I think everyone would agree they could certainly be a bigger part.
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    +1 Larry I agree totally in fact at today's show I was hunting these old holders,I'll buy one of these before looking at the top two graders.
     
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  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    They will still do a cross at any grade won't they?
     
  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    If you allow them. You can specify any grade, a minimum grade, or the current grade. You just can't specify that it has to upgrade to cross
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Danged yeah......if it ain't broke, don't fix it........even if it resides in a lesser (not my opinion) holder. I rather like the piece and residence. :)
     
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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Absolutely nothing to gain in crossing it. Keep it where it is. ANACS holders are just fine, and that coin is good just the way it is.
     
  18. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    That scratch does not bother me in the least. I don't think it would get detailed just for that.
     
  19. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I want it in the NGC holder so I can simply see the entire coin. I'm sending some of my other NGC coins in for that reason. I love the old anacs holder but for me I want to see the coin.
     
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